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	<title>Comments on: Australian climate poll: 60% passionate (but half in the dark)</title>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/australian-climate-poll-60-passionate-but-half-in-the-dark/comment-page-3/#comment-30854</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baa Humbug: Post 103,

Thanks Baa! Yes KiwiGate! They keep on coming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baa Humbug: Post 103,</p>
<p>Thanks Baa! Yes KiwiGate! They keep on coming&#8230;</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30854" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30854', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30854-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30854" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30854', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30854-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Baa Humbug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baa Humbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denny:
February 14th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Here you go mate, Kiwigate


&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=niwa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CLICK HERE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denny:<br />
February 14th, 2010 at 1:33 pm</p>
<p>Here you go mate, Kiwigate</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=niwa" rel="nofollow">CLICK HERE</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30729" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30729', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30729-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30729" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30729', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30729-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazza: Post 97,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Denny
I believe there was a Kiwigate too, though don;t have a link.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Thanks Jazza..if you could find that one I would appreciate it...Could it be under &quot;AustrialiaGate&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazza: Post 97,</p>
<blockquote><p>Denny<br />
I believe there was a Kiwigate too, though don;t have a link.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks Jazza..if you could find that one I would appreciate it&#8230;Could it be under &#8220;AustrialiaGate&#8221;?</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30713" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30713', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30713-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30713" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30713', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30713-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Lara Bickle above:

Kevin E. Trenberth, John T. Fasullo, and Jeffrey Kiehl (2009), Earth’s Global Energy Budget -- quotes from the abstract (full article requires pay-gate to access and I ain&#039;t giving a penny more than they can tax out of me).

&lt;blockquote&gt;
... with top-of-atmosphere (TOA) values constrained by Earth Radiation Budget Experiment values from 1985 to 1989, when the TOA values were approximately in balance. The Clouds and the Earth&#039;s Radiant Energy System (CERES) measurements from March 2000 to May 2004 are used at TOA but adjusted to an estimated imbalance from the enhanced greenhouse effect of 0.9 W m−2.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note carefully... last time someone made a measurement the TOA budget was in balance so 10 years later they add an assumption of imbalance in the belief that everyone knows Global Warming is happening.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Surface upward longwave radiation is adjusted to account for spatial and temporal variability. A lack of closure in the energy balance at the surface is accommodated by making modest changes to surface fluxes, with the downward longwave radiation as the main residual to ensure a balance.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then they end up with a residual, which they assume must be &quot;downward longwave radiation&quot; in the belief that everyone knows Global Warming is happening.

And this is supposedly EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE ? This is a joke right?

Laura, I suspect you don&#039;t take the time to read and understand the papers you are referencing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Lara Bickle above:</p>
<p>Kevin E. Trenberth, John T. Fasullo, and Jeffrey Kiehl (2009), Earth’s Global Energy Budget &#8212; quotes from the abstract (full article requires pay-gate to access and I ain&#8217;t giving a penny more than they can tax out of me).</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8230; with top-of-atmosphere (TOA) values constrained by Earth Radiation Budget Experiment values from 1985 to 1989, when the TOA values were approximately in balance. The Clouds and the Earth&#8217;s Radiant Energy System (CERES) measurements from March 2000 to May 2004 are used at TOA but adjusted to an estimated imbalance from the enhanced greenhouse effect of 0.9 W m−2.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Note carefully&#8230; last time someone made a measurement the TOA budget was in balance so 10 years later they add an assumption of imbalance in the belief that everyone knows Global Warming is happening.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Surface upward longwave radiation is adjusted to account for spatial and temporal variability. A lack of closure in the energy balance at the surface is accommodated by making modest changes to surface fluxes, with the downward longwave radiation as the main residual to ensure a balance.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Then they end up with a residual, which they assume must be &#8220;downward longwave radiation&#8221; in the belief that everyone knows Global Warming is happening.</p>
<p>And this is supposedly EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE ? This is a joke right?</p>
<p>Laura, I suspect you don&#8217;t take the time to read and understand the papers you are referencing.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30420" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30420', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30420-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30420" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30420', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30420-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ANGRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANGRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientists threatened for &#039;climate denial&#039;
 
By Tom Harper
Published: 12:01AM GMT 11 Mar 2007
Scientists who questioned mankind&#039;s impact on climate change have received death threats and claim to have been shunned by the scientific community.
They say the debate on global warming has been &quot;hijacked&quot; by a powerful alliance of politicians, scientists and environmentalists who have stifled all questioning about the true environmental impact of carbon dioxide emissions.
 Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada, has received five deaths threats by email since raising concerns about the degree to which man was affecting climate change.
One of the emails warned that, if he continued to speak out, he would not live to see further global warming.
&quot;Western governments have pumped billions of dollars into careers and institutes and they feel threatened,&quot; said the professor.
&quot;I can tolerate being called a sceptic because all scientists should be sceptics, but then they started calling us deniers, with all the connotations of the Holocaust. That is an obscenity. It has got really nasty and personal.&quot;
Last week, Professor Ball appeared in The Great Global Warming Swindle, a Channel 4 documentary in which several scientists claimed the theory of man-made global warming had become a &quot;religion&quot;, forcing alternative explanations to be ignored.
Richard Lindzen, the professor of Atmospheric Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology - who also appeared on the documentary - recently claimed: &quot;Scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their funds disappear, their work derided, and themselves labelled as industry stooges.
&quot;Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence even when they fly in the face of the science.&quot;
Dr Myles Allen, from Oxford University, agreed. He said: &quot;The Green movement has hijacked the issue of climate change. It is ludicrous to suggest the only way to deal with the problem is to start micro managing everyone, which is what environmentalists seem to want to do.&quot;
Nigel Calder, a former editor of New Scientist, said: &quot;Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding under the present system.&quot;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1545134/Scientists-threatened-for-climate-denial.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientists threatened for &#8216;climate denial&#8217;</p>
<p>By Tom Harper<br />
Published: 12:01AM GMT 11 Mar 2007<br />
Scientists who questioned mankind&#8217;s impact on climate change have received death threats and claim to have been shunned by the scientific community.<br />
They say the debate on global warming has been &#8220;hijacked&#8221; by a powerful alliance of politicians, scientists and environmentalists who have stifled all questioning about the true environmental impact of carbon dioxide emissions.<br />
 Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada, has received five deaths threats by email since raising concerns about the degree to which man was affecting climate change.<br />
One of the emails warned that, if he continued to speak out, he would not live to see further global warming.<br />
&#8220;Western governments have pumped billions of dollars into careers and institutes and they feel threatened,&#8221; said the professor.<br />
&#8220;I can tolerate being called a sceptic because all scientists should be sceptics, but then they started calling us deniers, with all the connotations of the Holocaust. That is an obscenity. It has got really nasty and personal.&#8221;<br />
Last week, Professor Ball appeared in The Great Global Warming Swindle, a Channel 4 documentary in which several scientists claimed the theory of man-made global warming had become a &#8220;religion&#8221;, forcing alternative explanations to be ignored.<br />
Richard Lindzen, the professor of Atmospheric Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology &#8211; who also appeared on the documentary &#8211; recently claimed: &#8220;Scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their funds disappear, their work derided, and themselves labelled as industry stooges.<br />
&#8220;Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence even when they fly in the face of the science.&#8221;<br />
Dr Myles Allen, from Oxford University, agreed. He said: &#8220;The Green movement has hijacked the issue of climate change. It is ludicrous to suggest the only way to deal with the problem is to start micro managing everyone, which is what environmentalists seem to want to do.&#8221;<br />
Nigel Calder, a former editor of New Scientist, said: &#8220;Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding under the present system.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1545134/Scientists-threatened-for-climate-denial.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1545134/Scientists-threatened-for-climate-denial.html</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30292" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30292', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30292-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">3</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30292" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30292', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30292-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MadJak</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadJak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee,

  WIth all these gates,  there doesn&#039;t appear to be much of a fence left for people to sit on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee,</p>
<p>  WIth all these gates,  there doesn&#8217;t appear to be much of a fence left for people to sit on.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-30015" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30015', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-30015-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">4</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-30015" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('30015', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-30015-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: george</title>
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		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazza, here`s a link to the NIWA episode I believe you are referring to. Note that if you dig a bit deeper there seems to be a bit of he said/she said in relation to what it is exactly that &quot;no longer exists&quot;, someone else may be able to elaborate on that perhaps?

http://business.scoop.co.nz/2010/02/01/niwa-unable-to-justify-official-temperature-record/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazza, here`s a link to the NIWA episode I believe you are referring to. Note that if you dig a bit deeper there seems to be a bit of he said/she said in relation to what it is exactly that &#8220;no longer exists&#8221;, someone else may be able to elaborate on that perhaps?</p>
<p><a href="http://business.scoop.co.nz/2010/02/01/niwa-unable-to-justify-official-temperature-record/" rel="nofollow">http://business.scoop.co.nz/2010/02/01/niwa-unable-to-justify-official-temperature-record/</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-29995" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('29995', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-29995-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-29995" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('29995', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-29995-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denny
 I believe there was a Kiwigate too, though don;t have a link. 

Read about NZ fudging of data few weeks ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denny<br />
 I believe there was a Kiwigate too, though don;t have a link. </p>
<p>Read about NZ fudging of data few weeks ago</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-29987" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('29987', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-29987-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-29987" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('29987', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-29987-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ANGRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANGRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUBJECT IPCC Admits It Doesn&#039;t Do Science !!

This admission (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/10/ipcc-reform) by an IPCC lead author in the UK’s Guardian is simply stunning:

“The Nobel prize was for peace not science … government employees will use it to negotiate changes and a redistribution of resources. It is not a scientific analysis of climate change,” said Anton Imeson, a former IPCC lead author from the Netherlands. “For the media, the IPCC assessments have become an icon for something they are not. To make sure that it does not happen again, the IPCC should change its name and become part of something else. The IPCC should have never allowed itself to be branded as a scientific organisation. It provides a review of published scientific papers but none of this is much controlled by independent scientists.”

READ MORE HERE:-

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/12721</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUBJECT IPCC Admits It Doesn&#8217;t Do Science !!</p>
<p>This admission (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/10/ipcc-reform" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/10/ipcc-reform</a>) by an IPCC lead author in the UK’s Guardian is simply stunning:</p>
<p>“The Nobel prize was for peace not science … government employees will use it to negotiate changes and a redistribution of resources. It is not a scientific analysis of climate change,” said Anton Imeson, a former IPCC lead author from the Netherlands. “For the media, the IPCC assessments have become an icon for something they are not. To make sure that it does not happen again, the IPCC should change its name and become part of something else. The IPCC should have never allowed itself to be branded as a scientific organisation. It provides a review of published scientific papers but none of this is much controlled by independent scientists.”</p>
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		<title>By: ANGRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANGRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUBJECT: AL GORE&#039;S BEACH HOUSE

Isn&#039;t it interesting that the head of the Church Of Al Gore owns a beach house!
 
WHAT ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND ALL THOSE RISING OCEANS?
 
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FIGURE EIGHT ISLAND REAL ESTATE
This private, peaceful ocean side haven offers bright blue waters and long stretches of beach, and is home to notables like Al Gore, John Edwards, and others who relish seclusion and natural surroundings. This 1,300 acre 5 mile island does not offer hotels, shopping centers, and tourism. However if bird watching, quiet walks and sunbathing is your strong suit you may find life here appealing. There are only 441 homes, no condos, but it does offer proximity to activity rich Wilmington, NC. Enjoy the myriad architectural styles of neatly cared for properties if you can get onto the island. If this is your style, Figure 8 Island may be your place. 

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Figure Eight Island is one of the places in North Carolina that is home to many celebrity houses. Celebrities like John Edwards and former Vice President Al Gore own houses on this island. The island has beautiful views as it is located between the Intracoastal Waterway and the Atlantic Ocean. The entire island only has about 440 houses making it an ideal place for couples and individuals to relax. It is also home to many beautiful exotic animal species. If you are looking for a vacation house, check out the Figure Eight island real estate. Wrightsville beach real estate also offers many bargains and great houses.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUBJECT: AL GORE&#8217;S BEACH HOUSE</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting that the head of the Church Of Al Gore owns a beach house!</p>
<p>WHAT ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND ALL THOSE RISING OCEANS?</p>
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FIGURE EIGHT ISLAND REAL ESTATE<br />
This private, peaceful ocean side haven offers bright blue waters and long stretches of beach, and is home to notables like Al Gore, John Edwards, and others who relish seclusion and natural surroundings. This 1,300 acre 5 mile island does not offer hotels, shopping centers, and tourism. However if bird watching, quiet walks and sunbathing is your strong suit you may find life here appealing. There are only 441 homes, no condos, but it does offer proximity to activity rich Wilmington, NC. Enjoy the myriad architectural styles of neatly cared for properties if you can get onto the island. If this is your style, Figure 8 Island may be your place. </p>
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<p>Figure Eight Island is one of the places in North Carolina that is home to many celebrity houses. Celebrities like John Edwards and former Vice President Al Gore own houses on this island. The island has beautiful views as it is located between the Intracoastal Waterway and the Atlantic Ocean. The entire island only has about 440 houses making it an ideal place for couples and individuals to relax. It is also home to many beautiful exotic animal species. If you are looking for a vacation house, check out the Figure Eight island real estate. Wrightsville beach real estate also offers many bargains and great houses.</p>
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