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		<title>By: Lionell Griffith</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24693</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionell Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test message.  Please ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test message.  Please ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuck</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24508</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Peter Spencer&#039;s story reminds me of two great Aussie movies: The Castle and The Bank.

I think that resemblance could -- and should -- be used to good effect by journalists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Peter Spencer&#8217;s story reminds me of two great Aussie movies: The Castle and The Bank.</p>
<p>I think that resemblance could &#8212; and should &#8212; be used to good effect by journalists!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tel and Saint,

I think that sorts that :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tel and Saint,</p>
<p>I think that sorts that <img src='http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24152</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...people? Why is this whole &quot;woot this million results&quot; thing important? Shouldn&#039;t we be discussing the actual issue, not some random search engine that has little bearing on the real world? Its only electrons, after all.
I personally think the red tape thing is brilliant.
Time to ship a dozen crates of it to that Obamanation we have for president. Or wish that I could even get my hands on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;people? Why is this whole &#8220;woot this million results&#8221; thing important? Shouldn&#8217;t we be discussing the actual issue, not some random search engine that has little bearing on the real world? Its only electrons, after all.<br />
I personally think the red tape thing is brilliant.<br />
Time to ship a dozen crates of it to that Obamanation we have for president. Or wish that I could even get my hands on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24087</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys should understand that those numbers that show up in google are estimates based on a statistically efficient but strictly imperfect indexing system. Once there are more than a million hits on a given topic, then search engine knows perfectly well that no one is going to thumb through a million items so it never actually checks them all, most of the computational effort goes into pruning the list back to the most relevant items.

For example, when searching for &quot;climategate&quot;:

&lt;b&gt;Results 1 - 10 of about 5,280,000 for climategate&lt;/b&gt;

Then thumb some pages deeper:

&lt;b&gt;Results 521 - 530 of about 27,000,000 for climategate&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Results 701 - 710 of about 3,810,000 for climategate&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 740 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the last page in the stuff that a &quot;normal&quot; search would bother collecting, a total of 740 items. But they index knows perfectly well there are millions of items -- only 740 are considered important enough to actually get looked at by the algorithm.

If you force it to go as deep as possible, you get down to:

&lt;b&gt;Results 991 - 1000 of about 3,780,000 for climategate&lt;/b&gt;

Note that the query time gets bigger and bigger for the deep search so google don&#039;t let you go past 1000 items to prevent their servers getting trashed by a single massive query.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys should understand that those numbers that show up in google are estimates based on a statistically efficient but strictly imperfect indexing system. Once there are more than a million hits on a given topic, then search engine knows perfectly well that no one is going to thumb through a million items so it never actually checks them all, most of the computational effort goes into pruning the list back to the most relevant items.</p>
<p>For example, when searching for &#8220;climategate&#8221;:</p>
<p><b>Results 1 &#8211; 10 of about 5,280,000 for climategate</b></p>
<p>Then thumb some pages deeper:</p>
<p><b>Results 521 &#8211; 530 of about 27,000,000 for climategate</b><br />
<b>Results 701 &#8211; 710 of about 3,810,000 for climategate</b></p>
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In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 740 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.
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<p>That&#8217;s the last page in the stuff that a &#8220;normal&#8221; search would bother collecting, a total of 740 items. But they index knows perfectly well there are millions of items &#8212; only 740 are considered important enough to actually get looked at by the algorithm.</p>
<p>If you force it to go as deep as possible, you get down to:</p>
<p><b>Results 991 &#8211; 1000 of about 3,780,000 for climategate</b></p>
<p>Note that the query time gets bigger and bigger for the deep search so google don&#8217;t let you go past 1000 items to prevent their servers getting trashed by a single massive query.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24073</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

As a guess -- I don&#039;t know for sure -- Google does a literal search on your query.  Bing supposedly applies some &quot;intelligence&quot; to your query, which may account for the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>As a guess &#8212; I don&#8217;t know for sure &#8212; Google does a literal search on your query.  Bing supposedly applies some &#8220;intelligence&#8221; to your query, which may account for the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/the-red-tape-protest-has-started/#comment-24023</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bing has 50mil references for climategate. Google 3.7mil.

What&#039;s goin&#039; on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bing has 50mil references for climategate. Google 3.7mil.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s goin&#8217; on?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian G Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian G Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if James&#039;s elected Senator, Christine Milne, would endorse James&#039;s creative protest?  

Ha ha

Seriously though, Christine Milne made her mark as &quot;protester.&quot;  That&#039;s how she gained fame! - or became a familiar name, at any rate.  

James in Tasmania, however, finds himself on &lt;i&gt;the wrong side&lt;/i&gt; of Senator Milne&#039;s sentiments.  

That probably makes James a &quot;loudmouth&quot; or &quot;bully&quot; in the Government&#039;s eyes.  

Tasmanian residents deserve better than Christine Milne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if James&#8217;s elected Senator, Christine Milne, would endorse James&#8217;s creative protest?  </p>
<p>Ha ha</p>
<p>Seriously though, Christine Milne made her mark as &#8220;protester.&#8221;  That&#8217;s how she gained fame! &#8211; or became a familiar name, at any rate.  </p>
<p>James in Tasmania, however, finds himself on <i>the wrong side</i> of Senator Milne&#8217;s sentiments.  </p>
<p>That probably makes James a &#8220;loudmouth&#8221; or &#8220;bully&#8221; in the Government&#8217;s eyes.  </p>
<p>Tasmanian residents deserve better than Christine Milne.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John @ 6,

and global warming comes in at about 37mil.

Climategate was catching warming,  we can&#039;t have that now can we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John @ 6,</p>
<p>and global warming comes in at about 37mil.</p>
<p>Climategate was catching warming,  we can&#8217;t have that now can we?</p>
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		<title>By: Springer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joanne...

I just came across this website, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climategate.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Climategate.com&lt;/a&gt;, which I&#039;m thinking you might be interested in. Some very interesting news articles, etc. 

Didn&#039;t see it on your sidebar list.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joanne&#8230;</p>
<p>I just came across this website, <a href="http://www.climategate.com/" rel="nofollow">Climategate.com</a>, which I&#8217;m thinking you might be interested in. Some very interesting news articles, etc. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t see it on your sidebar list.</p>
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