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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7017922.ece

It’s tragic to see a man who once was riding so high reduced to considering suicide. Thankfully he appears to have finally rejected the idea.

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2000 miles a month (20 day work week) (the most the Leaf will do) cost = $9.00 USD at .10 per KW electric per day (30Kw)= $180/per20 day month

that should be 2000 miles at 30KW per day x .10 = $3.00 per day or $60 pr month. This would realize a savings of $127.00 per month in gasoline at 30MPG. I believe the carbon calculation is correct.

Please note I used 30KW even though the battery is rated at 24KW. I could not find any information on the charger efficiency.

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The Leaf has a range of 100 miles average. I couldn’t find any information on cabin heat necessary in half the USA Half the year. Also nothing on air conditioning necessary in the other half of the country. To reach the same range as a Dodge Neon you’d need more than 3 times the battery (so what would that weigh? and where would you put it and what would the suspension look like) 3x 440 = 1320 added to the curb weight of 2500-3000 pounds = a very heavy 3820-4320 Which is Extremely heavy for a mini size car Dodge Neon = 2500.

Nissan’s own web site is very short on specifications and has a lot of Weasel Words in the pop question section. I could not find the curb weight or charge specifications on the Nissan site.

Takes 16 hours to charge a Leaf if you only have 120 VAC which is common in USA. (from Popular Mechanics)

This comment on Popular Mechanics:
I don’t know what rates are everywhere else but in CT they charge you for generation($.12), along with disturbution ect for a total of $.175 per kWh. Thats $4.20 for 100 miles. Gas at $2.50 a gallon would be $7.14 for 100 mile in a 35mpg car. At say 1000 mile per month thats $42.00 for the Leaf, and $71.40 for the misc 35mpg car. So I could save $29.40 a month on fuel. Now for the car payment. I have heard estimates of $30,000 – $7500(govt)= $22500 + battery lease(?) $22500 @ 6.0% 60 months = $435.00 a month 2009 Nissan Sentra(comparable gas car) $17,000 $17,000 @ 6.0% 60 months = $328.00 $435-$328 = $107 – $29 = $78 Does anyone really think this is going to save you money?

After 3 years you’ll be looking at a $10,000 battery replacement. (Unless you have an add on lease)

2000 miles a month (20 day work week) (the most the Leaf will do) cost = $9.00 USD at .10 per KW electric per day (30Kw)= $180/per20 day month

Dodge Neon 2000 miles @ 30MPG = 67 GALLONS X $2.80=$187.00

I say there is NO reason to play this game on the cost alone. As for the carbon effect see the other comments and figure 3 gallons of gas per day (about 60 pounds of Co2) or 30Kw of electric per day. (30 pounds of coal per day at the generation plant 30% efficiency forget the 7% line losses= 72 pounds of Co2 per day)

1 kg of coal produces about 2 kWh of electrical energy. Since 1 kg coal emits 2.93 kg CO2,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal

1 gallon of gasoline produces about 20 pounds of Co2
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/Feg/co2.shtml

I’ll stick with the Neon and you greenies keep dreaming.

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The Nissan Leaf has virtually the same curb weight as the Nissan family sedan. IC engine and complex junk about the same weight as the Batt.Pack or about 400 pounds.

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Their battery pack is old format tubular. The new format is flat rectangle sandwich design [used in the Nissan Leaf], and cools much more efficiently.

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