94 Responses to “Recent comments & news”

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   Tweets that mention Recent Comments & News « JoNova -- Topsy.com:
   January 17th, 2010 at 5:59 am

   [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Fred Chukkawakka, ClimateGate_RT. ClimateGate_RT said: #JoNova : Recent Comments & News http://bit.ly/8bU0Up #HideTheDecline [...]

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   Ed Moran:
   January 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am

   Jo,

   You’re rocking, girl!
   Keep putting the pressure on.

   Respect!,

   Ed Moran.

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   murray buzza:
   January 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

   NEWS The Weekend Australian dismisses Climategate.Inquirer section page 5.The article refers to a review by THe Associated Press.Pity the reviewers have not taken the time to question the likes of AL Gore and his team of carpetbaggers.Keep up your excellent work.Regards Murray Buzza

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   Joanne Nova:
   January 17th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

   If there are coding Wordpress experts out there, I’d appreciate some advice on this page and whether you know of other blogs who do this, or if not, why not? perhaps you could email me joanne AT joannenova.com.au?

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   mohib:
   January 17th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

   NEWSFROM TIMES ONLINE: World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown
   http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece

   A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

   Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world’s glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

   In the past few days the scientists behind the warning have admitted that it was based on a news story in the New Scientist, a popular science journal, published eight years before the IPCC’s 2007 report.

   It has also emerged that the New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.

   Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was “speculation” and was not supported by any formal research.

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   vg:
   January 17th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

   Jo anne
   OT but might lighten the atmosphere
   On Mombiot’s blog. The comments are hilarious 99 to 1 against. I admire Monbiot for hacking it though….
   http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/jan/06/cold-snap-climate-sceptics
   This is one of the funniest ones:

   I was wondering when the climate change lobby was going to get its mitts off and explain away the cold weather.

   I have nothing to say other than that I keep warm by tearing up climate change books and articles and stuffing them under my jumper.

   I knew they must be good for something and it works for me.

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   BJM:
   January 17th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

   Also this from Times Online.

   http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6945445.ece

   I think some ‘chickens are coming home to roost’ – as the saying goes.

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   Bernd Felsche:
   January 17th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

   NEWS Germany Pulls Plug on Solar.

   Germany’s new coalition government has announced reducing the subsidy for solar power by another 16-17% on top of the 9-11% cut announced a fortnight ago. The heavily-subsidised industry is squealing loudly saying that it would be unsustainable for most businesses to cope with those reductions. Article in German.

   The “renewable energy” industry seems to be locked into the frame of mind that all industry survives on subsidy. Oblivious that the subsidies are supposed to allow companies to develop products that are commercially-viable in their own right; and turn the company into a nett tax-payer.

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   mohib:
   January 18th, 2010 at 6:09 am

   NEWS>/b> MORE ON GLACIERS FROM NEW SCIENTIST (!): New Scientist Wants an Explanation

   Sifting climate facts from speculation
   http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527432.800-sifting-climate-facts-from-speculation.html

   IT WAS a dramatic declaration: glaciers across much of the Himalayas may be gone by 2035. When New Scientist heard this comment from a leading Indian glaciologist, we reported it. That was in 1999. The claim later appeared in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s most recent report – and it turns out that our article is the primary published source.

   The glaciologist has never submitted what he says was a speculative comment for peer review – and most of his peers strongly dispute it. So how could such speculation have become an IPCC “finding” which has, moreover, recently been defended by the panel’s chairman? We are entitled to an explanation, before rumour and doubt compound the damage to the image of climate science already inflicted by the leaked “climategate” emails.

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    UNIPCC WRONG AGAIN! « TWAWKI:
    January 18th, 2010 at 6:17 am

    [...] Climategate vote, More induced warmth, Climategate press, [...]

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    Nate:
    January 18th, 2010 at 7:42 am

    <3 your work JO!

    Hey when you get in contact with that wordpress guru, can you ask him to enable RSS feeds to your site?

    I tried to find one through an rss feeder and couldn't see it.
    I'd love to have you on my RSS feed.

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    Nate:
    January 18th, 2010 at 7:43 am

    ROFL, I take it back. There’s a giant feed button on the top I blindly missed.
    

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    Tel:
    January 18th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    NEWS Germany Pulls Plug on Solar.

    The German power base shifted significantly last election because the Green party was no longer a member of the ruling coalition and they were replaced with a pro-business (perhaps slightly Libertarian) party instead.

    I’m sure that at least some aspects of the German solar industry can continue without subsidy, there are significant numbers of people who just want solar because they feel good about it, and German electronic power conversion systems are probably the best in the world right now. For remote and inaccessible areas solar has a lot of advantages, and once you’ve paid for those expensive solar cells you would be wanting a power converter that is 100% dependable.

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 18th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Tel,

    The FDP coalition partner is more than slightly libertarian.

    If people want to feel good about solar, then they can pay the full price instead of having it paid for in part (and very inefficiently) by taxpayers through subisidies. Similarly, feed-in tariffs for co-generation should be commercially viable of its own accord; i.e. not at a rate that is much greater than the wholesale rate at which electricity can be sold.

    The feed-in tariff in Germany is up to 5 times greater than the retail rate; which makes it economically viable for “producers” to draw electricity from the grid to run through their PV cells in order to melt the snow off them in winter! Taxpayers and other electricity consumers pay.

    I have no doubt that several companies in the renewable energy will be able to survive without subsidy. Life won’t be as easy, but there are places and applications where such technologies make sense, commercially, economically and technically. There have been off-shoot technologies in terms of energy management, insulation technology, etc; but it’s very hard to pin those things down to being more advanced than they would have been without disruptive subsidies. Energy price rises due to the usual pressures result in efforts to conserve as long as the consumer has to pay.

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    Peter of Sydney:
    January 18th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    It has just snowed overnight in some mountainous parts of Australia in the middle of summer!!! This is very unusual. So much for global warming. Where is it?
    Reports here; http://ski.com.au/
    Pictures here: http://hangwiththewang.blogspot.com/

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    Louis Hissink:
    January 18th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Peter of Sydney

    When we spent xmas holidays at Thredbo during the 1960’s Mt Koz was invariably snow capped.

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    ANGRY:
    January 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    SUBJECT: PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF QUEENSLAND

    Hi all,
    If you read this particular speech from Kevin Rudd from 20/4/2009 at the Adelaide Jobs Forum, he mentions in the last paragraph that he comes from “the People’s Republic of Queensland”.
    To me that sounds very OMINOUS indeed!
    When was this particular REPUBLIC created I wonder?
    Here is the link to the particular speech on the Prime Minister’s website:-

    http://www.pm.gov.au/node/5219

    Cheers

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    Cement a friend:
    January 18th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Louis, I remember clearly climbing to the top of Mt Koz in the summer of 1966. There were only a few patches of snow in shady south facing areas and absolutely none at the top. We walked from the Threbo chair lift (about 2 miles) and on the way talked to the chap in the bushfire look out tower which I think has been pulled down. On the other hand snow on Mt Wellington Hobart around Christmas day is not that rare (I have seen the snow there). Melbourne has always had a lousy climate. Too hot in the summer and cold and miserable wet in winter. I am sure back in 1958 that there was a stretch of 4 or 5 days with temperatures above 100F day and night and on one day reaching over108F in the shade. Maybe the weather is getting back to normal. There will be lots of broken records in the years to come of this century.

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    co2isnotevil:
    January 18th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Cement, re #18

    I suspect that there will be fewer and fewer broken records in the future. The history to which records are tested is relatively short, at least relative to the changing climate. If the history went back to the peak of the last interglacial, there would probably never be any more record hot or cold temperatures anywhere on the planet.

    Here in California, we had a very cool summer and so far have experienced a cooler than normal winter, despite the El Nino, which is usually associated with warmer temperatures. This year it seems that a multi decadal Arctic oscillation is heading towards a minimum, which may be offsetting the warmer weather associated with El Nino events. El Nino storms frequently have ‘coma’ tails that extend well into the tropics which pick up significant subtropical moisture and warmth. At the moment, there’s a real dry region in the tropics and 10 days of very cold storms (4-5 systems) lined up to hit us where we are expecting >1 foot rain along the coast and > 10 feet of snow in the mountains. There will surely be mudslides and other water and snow events which warmists will undoubtedly attribute to ‘climate change’.

    George

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    Thumbnail:
    January 18th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Kevin Rudd’s singular rush to sign the Kyoto Protocol have put you, me and every other Australian at risk of big fines if we can’t meet our targets as specified under same. Good news – we met the targets – WHOLELY AND SOLEY BECAUSE THE STATE GOVERNMENTS HAVE REMOVED FARMER’S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

    I have just come back to my hotel room, from a meeting in Goondiwindi of farmers who have decided to meet publicly to discuss how the State Government are expropriating land rights, with no or little compensation.

    I have come back sober, and very afraid for our future.

    Our State Governments use tactics like a Wilderness Nomination – all it takes is one disgruntled neighbour and your property is under the microscope with all details shared with the public. By Law in NSW, if one person nominates your land for a Wilderness Assessment, hang on for dear life. Government bullies have threatened to burn the bush and residence of one owner, have used helicopters to harass and threaten another family, have set massive fines (over $100,000) for a third family and have contaminated a water bore during the drought, just to drive them off their land. This is out of Pol Pot’s book. They have turned children against parents by pushing a green agenda. They have stitched up between 45% and 90% of farmer’s land. I cried when I heard this. But wait. There is more.

    Did you know that all of the Opposition’s newsletters have to go through a censorship procedure, prior to being mailed out? Yes – Kevin Rudd’s goons staff will censor anything they think is critical of the government, or that uses emotive language. I am amazed that we actually got the message that this ETS is just one big tax. I am sure that Kevins hitmen censors would have hit the delete button on that commentary.

    I am afraid for our future. Please, everyone who reads this blog. Please join Agmates and learn more.

    http://agmates.ning.com/

    Kevin Rudd and his faithful followers will re-present this CPRS/ETS legislation again in the Senate in just a couple of week’s time. We need everyone to lobby against this massive fraud. Ring your Federal Representative and tell them you will not vote for them if they vote for the CPRS. We need to understand the impact on Australian families. How much will it cost? How many degrees will the world cool, Penny?

    Ring the Greens Senators and let them know how you feel. It is possible to protect our habitat and respect property rights at the same time, through Regional Vegetation Plans which cater for specific solutions for the Region.

    Ring your Labor Senators and tell them what is in store for them (remember six Senate positions are possibily coming up for grabs in each State.)

    Ring your MP’s and let them know this will affect your vote.

    I am organising a meeting in Brisbane to help our townies understand what the f@%k is happening in the bush.

    I will not be silenced.

    I will not stand by and let our farmers be abused by our government.

    If they can steal farmer’s land, we are next.

    More on Agmates.

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    ANGRY:
    January 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Summer snow a surprise for holidaymakers

    Snow in January in the Snowy Mountains.

    Snow and ice all over the UK and Europe.
    Snow and ice all over the US.
    Anyone see a pattern here?
    Yep it’s getting COLDER!

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/summer-snow-a-surprise-for-holidaymakers/story-e6frf7kf-1225820913288

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    Gary:
    January 18th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    NEWS U.N.’s World Health Organization Eyeing Global Tax on Banking, Internet Activity
    Friday, January 15, 2010

    “The WHO scheme to transfer impressive amounts of money, technology, patents and manufacturing ability to the developing world in a global battle to conquer disease looks similar in many respects to the calls for huge transfers of wealth and technology that were at the heart of the just-failed U.N.-sponsored conference on lowering greenhouse gas emissions at Copenhagen.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583127,00.html

    This is the same WHO that is under investigation in Europe regarding WHO pandemic alerts/flu vaccines/Big Pharma payments to key WHO advisers

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    Henry chance:
    January 19th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Snow? At low elevations? No way!!!!!

    I understand it will melt but in the mean time, too good to be true. Wazzup al Gore???

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    Springer:
    January 19th, 2010 at 2:33 am

    Looks like the BBC has told the Met to pretty much go pound salt!

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    ANGRY:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    SUBJECT: U.N.’s World Health Organization Eyeing Global Tax on Banking, Internet Activity

    The World Health Organization (WHO) is considering a plan to ask governments to impose a global consumer tax on such things as Internet activity or everyday financial transactions like paying bills online.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583127,00.html

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:30 am

    NEWS A view to a wind-powered future as demonstrated by Germany. No more natural landscapes. It’s all industrialised by environmentally-friendly wind and solar.

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    Thumbnail:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Hi Bernd,
    We drove through Southern Ontario, Canada and the landscape is blighted with wind farms. They are absolutely and positively a scar on what was once prime farming land.

    Shocking.

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    Cement a friend:
    January 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    co2isnotevil, I was thinking about records this century starting in 2000. The decade to 2010 will be both the hottest and coldest this century until a new record is set. But records mean nothing if one does not compare data from the past on the same basis.
    For CO2 it is claimed that records only began in 1958 by modern instruments at the active volcano Mauna Loa. This is of course false. It has been shown by a number of researchers using accurate chemical methods that CO2 was at a similar level as present in around 1940 which was some 5 years after peak temperatures in the 1930’s. The omission of measured CO2 data and using doubtful (localised) ice proxy data is worse data manipulation than has been found to occur with temperatures in the climategate emails.
    Now it has been revealed that the IPCC reports on glaciers are based on the opinion of a lone Indian person and a hype WWF communication. Further, the lead author has no experience in the science of glacier assessment.
    The IPCC report section on sea level rise was similiar prepared by someone with experience in oceanography and has been shown to be wildly exaggerated.
    The IPCC should be scrapped, and the chairman Pauchari and lead authors (including an Australian from CSIRO) hauled into court.

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    ANGRY:
    January 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    SUBJECT: No Link – Drought and Climate Change – CSIRO

    Good Afternoon,
    It seems as though finally the CSIRO is speaking some common sense!
    Have a read of these links.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/jury-still-out-on-climate-change-csiro/1728307.aspx?src=email#

    http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/michael-smith-blog/no-link—drought-and-climate-change–csiro/20100119-mig3.html

    Cheers

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    Jerry:
    January 20th, 2010 at 5:27 am

    NEWS

    NASA secretly updates its web-page to remove embarrassing statement.

    Up until earlier today NASA had the not only wrong but very wrong statement on their web page http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    “Mountain glaciers and snow cover have declined on average in both hemispheres, and may disappear altogether in certain regions of our planet, such as the Himalayas, by 2030″

    Now, without explanation they have amended it to

    “Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa”

    So not only were NASA wrong in their hearts-and-minds activist campaign, they have got into the business of silently rewriting history to avoid any embarrassment.

    What credence can you put on the rest of that page and what does this anonymous editing say of NASA impartiality and truthfulness?

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    ANGRY:
    January 20th, 2010 at 6:46 am

    SUBJECT: It has a gigantic supercomputer, 1,500 staff and a £170m-a-year budget. So why does the Met Office get it so wrong?

    Its supercomputer makes 1,000 billion calculations a second – then tells us to expect a mild winter. But what would you expect from a ’scientific’ organisation that for 20 years has been dominated by climate change zealots, and whose current chairman is the former boss of the World Wildlife Fund?

    read more here:-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240082/It-gigantic-supercomputer-1-500-staff-170m-year-budget-So-does-Met-Office-wrong.html

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    ANGRY:
    January 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Scientists abandon global warming ‘lie’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83323

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    ANGRY:
    January 20th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Warmists buried under Britain’s snow

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/warmists_buried_under_britains_snow/

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 20th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    NEWS Left in the Dark by Wind Power

    UK Telegraph: Wind farms produced ‘practically no electricity’ during Britain’s cold snap 0.2% power generated was by wind; of the rated capacity 5%. i.e. actual power generation by wind was 4% of installed capacity.

    Germany’s wind power “generation” for December is graphed here where the 23.3 GW installed capacity produced less than 6% of rated output for almost 162 hours of the month. The graph shows that only occasionally does the power generated actually exceed even a third of the installed capacity.

    This a a typical characteristic of wind power. The depth of winter and the height of summer tend to have fairly mild wind conditions; not conducive to electricity generation from wind power unless you like to sit in the dark and freeze in winter; or swelter without airconditioning during the worst heat of summer.

    Gaia-worshippers squander all our money on white elephants, leaving us with nothing to build real capacity for electricity generation.

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    Hugh:
    January 21st, 2010 at 12:24 am

    janama:
    January 20th, 2010 at 5:37 am

    “I suppose it depends on your definition of drought. Last week BoM reported that the area currently in flood in NSW was still in drought!”

    … I think I can explain that. We grew up in the ’60’s and ’70’s playing Squatter. Remember that? – it was a variation of Monopoly for Australian sheep stations. Wholesome good fun, in fact, in those happy days before computer gaming was a cloud no bigger than a man’s fingernail on the horizon.

    In the Squatter rules , the “Local drought” and “General drought” cards – deep red for disaster! – that you picked up meant you had to sell half your stock at rock bottom prices and could not stock for a circuit or two of the board (as far as I can remember). Lovely blue “Local rain” and “General rain” cards broke drought for you, or everyone accordingly.

    But – here’s the point – the red “Flood” cards meant you sold half your stock … fair enough … but they did not break any droughts!

    So Freudian analysis would reveal that the relevant BOM personnel are Squatter babies.

    I’m tempted to pursue the thought…what would updated Squatter cards say today?

    “Al Gore visits. Slaughter 9/10 of your belching, farting cattle and apply for subsidy to erect a wind turbine.”

    “IPCC leader caught in conflict-of-interest scandal. Spin the arrow to establish carbon price. You may chop down any ETS-based plantations in two paddocks and replace with more profitable livestock.”

    “Global Warming science deemed settled. Withdraw from game and go hang yourself.”

    Cheers

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    ANGRY:
    January 21st, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    500 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of “Man-Made” Global Warming

    http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

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    The Future of Earthquake-Predicting Technology [VIDEO] | AboutPhysics.info:
    January 21st, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    [...] Recent Comments & News « JoNova [...]

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    Black Duck:
    January 22nd, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Thank heavens for the fairer sex. Not only are Jo’s efforts remarkable but Senator Lisa Murkowski in the states has taken on the EPA to overturn the CO2 endangerment ruling. See http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/21/epas-co2-endangerment-finding-challenged-today-in-the-u-s-senate/#more-15502.

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    ANGRY:
    January 22nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    SUBJECT: Senators Sue Boyce & Judith Troeth

    The Greens have indicated that they may do a deal with the Labor Party on the ETS. If they vote with the Government in the Senate, Labor needs another two votes to pass the legislation.

    There is a rumour about that Senator Boyce (Liberal QLD) intends to support the Rudd Government’s ETS legislation when it is re-submitted to the Senate in early February 2010.

    If you are a Queenslander (or even if you’re not?), you may consider contacting the Senator to express your opinion.

    Keep the pressure up …. politicians only respond when they think the may lose a few votes. Boyce’s email address: senator.sue.boyce@aph.gov.au

    There is a Victorian Senator, Judith Troeth, who is also wavering … her email address: senator.troeth@aph.gov.au

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    ANGRY:
    January 22nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Just in case my post was ambigious.
    That was to email Boyce and Troeth TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ETS!

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    The Indian media is after Pachauri. Catch the video at Andrew Bolts site
    here

    The Oz Prime Minister features heavily in the footage. We know how the Indians feel about our PM at mo. Associating Pachauri with our PM sends a strong signal about their intent. Get Pachauri

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    ANGRY:
    January 23rd, 2010 at 7:00 am

    SUBJECT: Why the BBC will always be wrong on Climate Change

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100023145/why-the-bbc-will-always-be-wrong-on-climate-change/

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    Joe Parale:
    January 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    The Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh sure doesn’t sound happy, in this article at Express India.

    Pachauri claim alarmist, warnings aimed at creating panic reiterates Ramesh
    

    It’s hardly the tempered language of a Government Minister , ‘though I expect he doesn’t like being dictated to & dismissed by UN appointed bureaucrats either.

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    ANGRY:
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    SUBJECT: Time for Meds? NASA scientist James Hansen endorses book which calls for ‘ridding the world of Industrial Civilization’ – Hansen declares author ‘has it right…the system is the problem’

    This is the lunacy that this global warming issue has reached!

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/4993/Time-for-Meds-NASA-scientist-James-Hansen-endorses-book-which-calls-for-ridding-the-world-of-Industrial-Civilization-ndash-Hansen-declares-author-has-it-rightthe-system-is-the-problem?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ClimateDepot+%28Climate+Depot%29

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    Nick:
    January 23rd, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Baa Humbug @ 42,

    Where’d the video go?

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    Nick:
    January 24th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    I think we have a new Term/Phrase/Label for the Animated passions of the AGW’s curtosy of SPPI Climategate Analysis…

    “Church of Climatology”

    Analysis Here

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 24th, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Hi Nick

    mmmm I don’t know what happened to the vid. I’ll ask Bolta

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 24th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    found it on youtube here

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    ANGRY:
    January 24th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    SUBJECT: James Hansen: Would you buy a used temperature data set from THIS man?

    Have a look at what this LUNATIC HANSEN IS ENDORSING!

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100023339/james-hansen-would-you-buy-a-used-temperature-data-set-from-this-man/

    This fellow is advocating TERRORISM in the name of the Church Of Al Gore!

    And he works for NASA!

    Obviously in this case NASA means Not A Science Agency!

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    Nick:
    January 24th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Thanks for that BaaHumbug

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 25th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    NEWS
    Thuringia rejects wind farms rejects to protect nature; especially birds and bats.

    Official decision (in German)

    Some real environmentalists are waking up and becoming more vocal, even in Eco-land.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    52
    ANGRY:
    January 26th, 2010 at 5:59 am

    SUBJECT: Lord Stern’s dodgy dossier exposed

    Apart from Al Gore, NASA’s Dr James Hansen, and the soon-to-be-much-missed head of the IPCC Dr Rajendra Pachauri, no one on earth has been a more voluble and extravagantly hysterical harbinger of Man-Made Eco Doom than Lord Stern of Brentford.

    READ MORE HERE:-

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100023540/lord-sterns-dodgy-dossier-exposed/

    PS Of course we won’t see this discussed in our censored newspapers in Australia. Nor on the abc or sbs no doubt!

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 26th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    NEWS Here’s a climate scam run by/for the WWF and generously supported by big oil:

    It’s called Arktik (site in German) and is a card systemwhereby you pay a few (Euro-)cents more per litre as indulgences CO2-offsets. The fuel company makes a co-payment of a little more, along with the you paid tax for your ignorance to the Arktik scheme. Germany’s Technical Oversight Council (TÜV) verifies that 100% of the funds collected in said scheme pumps up the “climate protection” racket sector. Which is a little suspect because one has to ask where they get their operating capital; unless Arktik are registered as a “climate protector”.

    The fuel company makes a co-payment per litre. So that’s built into the price of fuel sold to everybody; even those who don’t subscribe to Arktik. Methinks one should refuel at stations not part of the “protection” racket.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Bernd Felsche:
    January 26th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    NEWS Amazongate

    The IPCC made false predictions on the Amazon rain forests, referenced to a non peer-reviewed paper produced by an advocacy group working with the WWF. This time though, the claim made is not even supported by the report and seems to be a complete fabrication

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 26th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    According to The OZ ABC News Radio, Tony Abbott is saying Kevin Rudd has NOT issued a notice paper on the reintroduction of the ETS Bill.

    Rats deserting the sinking ship by the looks of it.

    Like or Dislike: 2  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 26th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    oops for the non-Aussies, Tony Abbott is the opposition leader, K Rudd is ofcourse the Prime Minister

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Nick M:
    January 26th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Baa Humbug @ 55,

    I don’t fuly understand the implications. Is there a deadline for Issuing a Notice Paper?

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Thumbnail:
    January 26th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Here is something I picked up from the Agmates site:

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/1301.0Feature%20Article1012008?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=1301.0&issue=2008&num=&view=

    In this article, from the Australian Governments abs.gov.au website, the article says:

    THE WORLD’S CLIMATE BEFORE THE RECENT ICE AGES

    For much of the last 400 million years, the world has been substantially warmer than it is now. Geological evidence indicates that, for most of the period between 40 and 260 million years ago, the world was entirely or almost entirely ice-free, indicating a climate several degrees (at least) warmer than that which exists now. The ocean circulation would also have been very different to the present due to different continental configurations. At earlier times still, there have been numerous ice ages, and it is possible that the entire globe was ice-covered at times, particularly around 700-800 million years ago.

    Conditions became cooler from about 40 million years ago, but there were still numerous warm periods. One specific period which has been the subject of some investigation has been the period from 3.0-3.3 million years ago. This period appears to have had global mean temperatures 2-3 degrees Celsius (°C) warmer than the present, with the greatest warming at high latitudes. During this period, sea levels are estimated to have been several metres higher than they are at present.

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 26th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    NIck #57

    No but there is for “the most important issue of our times”

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Nick M:
    January 26th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Thumbnail @ 58

    Further to the point as well…

    It is very likely that changes in global temperature have been largely driven by human-induced changes in the atmosphere, especially increased concentrations of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. It is more difficult to formally attribute climate changes to particular causes over an area the size of Australia than it is over the globe as a whole

    “very likely”

    ok then, well that proves it doesn’t it? for gaaawwdds sake

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    bunny:
    January 27th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    The Australian is running an opinion poll asking:

    How much do you trust scientific projections concerning global warming?

    The options are:

    Completely

    Somewhat

    A little

    Not at all

    The last choice is getting about 62% of the votes so far.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au

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    ANGRY:
    January 28th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Ministry of Justice lists eco-activists alongside terrorists

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/26/ministry-justice-environmental-campaigners-terrorism

    Government officials have labelled environmental campaigners extremists and listed them alongside dissident Irish republican groups and terrorists inspired by al-Qaida in internal documents seen by the Guardian.

    The guidance on extremism, produced by the Ministry of Justice, says: “The United Kingdom like many other countries faces a continuing threat from extremists who believe they can advance their aims by committing acts of terrorism.”

    It was sent to probation staff who were writing court reports or supervising a range of activists, including environmental protesters.

    The advice lists “environmental extremists” alongside far-right activists, dissident Irish republicans, loyalist paramilitaries and al-Qaida-inspired extremists as among groups “currently categorised as extremist [that] may include those who have committed serious crime in pursuit of an ideology or cause”.

    David Howarth, the Liberal Democrats’ justice spokesman, said tonight that the documents revealed “a quite astonishing conflation of legitimate protest with terrorism”.

    The government has been criticised for tarring environmental protesters as “domestic extremists”, a term invented by the police, who say it can cover activists suspected of minor public order offences such as peaceful direct action and civil disobedience. The internal guidance from the Ministry of Justice’s National Offender Management Service defines domestic extremism as any “unlawful action that is part of a protest or campaign”.

    “It is often associated with a ’single issue’ protest such as animal rights, far-right and far-left political extremism, anti- war and environmentalist extremism. The activity of Domestic Extremist Offenders is more criminal in its nature than that of an activist – but falls short of terrorism.”

    “Environmental extremists” are described as committing “criminal activity motivated by the broad philosophy and social movement centred on a concern for conservation and improvement of the natural environment”.

    Environmentalists reject the extremist label, saying that their protests are peaceful and non-violent.

    Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of the probation service union, Napo, said its members were unhappy with government attempts to lump environmental campaigners with terrorist suspects.

    He said the guidance appeared to be part of a wider attempt by some government officials to interfere for political reasons in the work of criminal justice staff.

    Ben Stewart, of Greenpeace, said: “The climate movement has never once sought to further its political aims by using violence, which is something that Jack Straw, foreign secretary during the invasion of Iraq, can most certainly not claim.

    “His Ministry of Justice would be better occupied reminding itself that peaceful direct action has a long and noble history in this country.”

    A ministry spokesman said: “It is not true to say that offenders who have committed criminal offences in connection with an extremist cause are ‘all treated the same’. The National Offender Management Service has a programme of work that covers all forms of extremism.”

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    ANGRY:
    January 28th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    SUBJECT: Climate agency going up in flames

    http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=90f8dd19-4a79-4f8f-ab42-b9655edc289b#ixzz0dpiB0tX3

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    There is a website that is archiving all that has been stated by the alarmist pollies scientists and celebrities here

    Called climatequotes.com, here is a sample by Gordon Brown from october 2009

    “…in just twenty-five years the glaciers in the Himalayas which provide water for three quarters of a billion people could disappear entirely.”

    That’ll be one of about hundreds which will be quoted back to him ad nauseum until he is pushing up daisies (in a warm moist CO2 rich atmosphere)

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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    MattB:
    January 28th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    In fairness to Gordon… he is only quoting the IPCC.

    Like or Dislike: 0  1

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    Baa Humbug:
    January 28th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    MattB if the good Viscount Monckton was replying to you he may have said something like…

    .

    “Defenditatus non defensus”

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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    ANGRY:
    January 28th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    SUBJECT: Save the planet! Stink out the homes and spread the gastro

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/save_the_planet_stink_out_the_homes_and_spread_the_gastro/

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    MattB:
    January 28th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Humbug – I have no doubt that is what he would have said… and sounded like a pompous toffy while doing it:) If I was his PR agent I’d strongly advise he drop the Latin.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    bunny:
    January 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    NEWS

    Water vapour a major cause of global warming and cooling.

    A research team at NOAA have reported a mysterious 10% drop in water vapour in the stratosphere which may have been behind the last decade being cooler than expected.

    Their model also suggests that an increase in stratospheric water vapour might have boosted earlier warming by about 30% in the 1980s and 1990s.

    Who would have thought it? Water vapour influences global temperatures.

    http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100128/full/news.2010.42.html

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Joe Parale:
    January 31st, 2010 at 9:40 am

    BBC ’s Getting (or rather Giving) the message, at Last !

    BBC News 24 has just at this very moment been Discussing tomorros UK papers, highligting an Observer story (Full Front Page) by the Climate Secretary, Milliband, and contrasting that with another story in the Telegraph.

    Don’t know who the bloke doing the commenting on the progarm is but he’s getting away with putting a remarkably (for the BBC) skeptic presentation on it, claiming to be skeptical himself, and then the presenter , so matter of factly, mentions that “there’s an awful lot of money tied up with taking the Global Warming view” (owtte)

    Like or Dislike: 2  0

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    Joe Parale:
    January 31st, 2010 at 10:01 am

    From today’s Sunday Telegraph (UK)
    UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article
    ‘fraid I cann’t find the Observer Front Page article , by Climate Secretary, Milliband , on-line yet…

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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    Joe Parale:
    January 31st, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Here it is, today’s Observer (UK) front Page (the Guardian’s Sunday sheet)

    Climate Change Minister Declares War on climate change sceptics …..

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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    Joe Parale:
    February 1st, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Has Minister pushed AGW theory past it’s tipping point ?

    It’s fascinating to watch the reaction to this piece on todays Guardian news website, usually a very hostile environment for ‘denier’ reactions.

    Climate Change Minister Declares War on climate change sceptics

    When Guardian readership is turned against something like this, it’s all over bar the shouting, and it looks as if the good Minister’s intervention might just have done it.

    Like or Dislike: 2  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Groundhog day.

    Just in time for the reintroduction of the ETS into the Oz Parliament, our very own ABC focuses on a report here via Australian Climate Madness

    An ETS will only raise prices by 1% according to a NEW study. But guess what happens to food prices if we don’t introduce an ETS? Owww go on guess

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 1st, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    A new report out from Thailand that Bangkok is SINKING. But wait, it’s NOT from Global Warming caused sea level rise (1.5-2mm p/y) but from bad land/water use practices causing the land to SINK 11mm per year. As reported on the ABC News Network Asia Focus Programme. See their sos here

    I didn’t get the name of the report author, heard it on the car radio on the way home.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 3:34 am

    The MSM in the UK is reporting that the climategate emails were the work of foreign spies. here

    I don’t like this. This is a red herring for the UK government to shut up shop on the climategate scandal by evoking national security.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    *************Important News*********

    It’s official, Global Warming IS a religion.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Global Warming Afforded Same Legal Status as Religion in UK

    Source: Scott Net

    When it comes to climate change, just have a little faith!

    In an unusual case in the United Kingdom, it has been ruled that climate change beliefs should be afforded the same legal protections as religious freedoms. The bizarre ruling sets a landmark legal precedent and could have broad implications both in Britain and abroad.

    via SPPI Blog

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    MattB:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Aren’t you literally months out of date on that last one Humbug? next you’ll tell us: “Breaking news, emails leaked/hacked from leading climate research centre.”

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Yeah looks like I’m showing my age there Matt. You know how it is with us farmers, things move slowly

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Joe Parale:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    That arch defender of all that is AGW,
    THE (UK) GUARDIAN, TURNS.

    Sunday, it was the Guardian readership turning on an article about the Govt. Minister for Climate Change “declaring War on Skeptics…”

    Today, the Guardian itself is claiming in an Exclusive, it’s ‘Own Investigation (!!!)’ into leaked E-Mails discovers Leaked climate change emails scientist ‘hid’ data flaws

    Their most emminent AGW commentator is also calling for heads:-
    Climate change email scandal shames the university and requires resignations
    .

    Like or Dislike: 2  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 4th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Jo you did a piece late last year about women in science from memory. I think you’ll be interested in this from pajamas media

    “Now, I am not a scientist. I am just a mother who raised 9 kids and trains horses for a living. Nothing scientific about that, but it seems to me everything should always be open for discussion…..
    …”Outrageous to me was one scientist who claimed our high school students would not be able to understand the information and especially when the opposing side was paid off and presenting lies”.

    But now a reply from Michael Tobis “Well, let’s leave aside the business of what the 9 kids tells us about you, and how much time you’ve had to think about complicated grownup stuff. I’m not sure you want to go there, really”.

    The above via Lucias Blackboard

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 4th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Donna Laframboise details some more “peer review” by the IPCC. Seems they were citing newspaper articles as well.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 9th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    *********Hey Jo How about***********

    Hey Jo, how about drawing the opera house on stilts???? for the next time we do a piece on rising sea levels.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Michael:
    February 11th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    NEWS Just reviewed Ferenc Miskolczi’s paper regarding proof that increased CO2 will not cause runaway climate. A NASA scientist, he had to resign in order to get his paper published, in the January-March 2007 issue of IDOJARAS, the Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Service.

    I have not seen this article so if it is old, my apologies. Enjoy.

    http://www.dailytech.com/Researcher+Basic+Greenhouse+Equations+Totally+Wrong/article10973.htm

    There is also an article:

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-32936-Seminole-County-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2010m2d9-New-research-into-greenhouse-effect-challenges-theory-of-manmade-global-warming

    Another at:

    http://landshape.org/enm/greenhouse-effect-in-semi-transparent-planetary-atmospheres-by-miskolczi-a-review/

    And Finally:

    http://www.climategate.com/former-nasa-scientist-debunks-co2-greenhouse-theory

    I went overboard but feel each offers a bit of a different twist and thought more might provide better validity.

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    MattB:
    February 11th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Dear god why is it that skeptics feel the need to see a piece of news and then run to every skeptical blog they can find and post it, repeatedly.

    Like or Dislike: 2  0

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    co2isnotevil:
    February 12th, 2010 at 3:57 am

    Matt,

    Why is it that when an alarmist reports on one of the many newly acknowledged faults in the IPCC reports, they throw in a bunch of noise in order to deflect the reader from the significance of the errors?

    One of the more recent ones was claiming that all of the faults were in the effects of climate change and not about the science. Of course, it’s the emotional response to the fabricated effects that drives alarmism and even you should know by now that the ’science’ behind climate alarmism is so fundamentally flawed that no serious scientist can possibly accept it as ‘undeniable’.

    The bottom line is that while man’s CO2 emissions have a finite effect on the climate, this effect is far smaller than IPCC claims (i.e the science part that is undeniably incorrect) and no where near large enough to cause catastrophic climate change. I suggest that you take off your green tinted glasses so you can perceive reality as it is and not as you want it to be.

    George

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    Michael:
    February 12th, 2010 at 6:00 am

    Matt, thou dost protest too much. You are too sensitive! Your overwhelmingly reactive cry of indignation at having to see not just one post revealing how wrong AGWarming alarmists are, but four, makes a statement in and of itself. You no longer need to try to defend your position (as if you ever did) for each and every assault you make actually provides evidence that skeptics are indeed correct. Our evidence of truth makes you proclaim deep within your soul, “TRAVESTY!” Your cries actually provide status for our opinion. If you were sincere in bringing credit to “your side” then you would proceed to actually present empirical evidence, or results which lends credance to what you so faithfully implore is the truth.

    My posting four sites, and there were more, resulted from the fact I was trying to determine if I was being misled by alarmist’s who would then post how Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi was a fraud. For your information there are more than just these “four” posts. Amazingly, each post actually provided greater depth of truth to the story.

    One of the benefits of using the Web is having at ones finger-tips instant knowledge, unfortunately, much of said knowledge can be nothing more than propaganda. But you must already know this, or your effort to convert us would contain more substance. But thank you for allowing us to see how deep your faith is in Al Gore and et al.

    MattB, I wonder if you need to try to find evidence for both sides of the argument. In fact it would be good for you to practice the art of debate and pretend you are trying to support a skeptic’s point of view. But wait, then you would have to allow the truth to actually get past your religious screening system. Never mind, the pain would be unbearable for you. Better to leave the searching to individuals actually seeking truth, not fooling themselves into thinking they have it. Michael

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    lambroast:
    February 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Hi I was just reading about Lord Monctons visit and I noticed there wasn’t any pics of him talking to the crowd outside “the J” in noosa. I have 4 pic of the crowd and lord Moncton speaking. If anyone is interested in these pics please email me on lambroast@yahoo.com.au.

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    Kelly:
    February 20th, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Absurd images from “Climate Change Gone Dutch” including subversive use of “The Skeptic’s Handbook” at recent Dutch National Climate event “Beat the Heat”:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwFQT9RK8I

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 22nd, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Jo “the last 20 posts” don’t seem to be listed any longer?

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Joanne Nova:
    February 22nd, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Thanks Baa Humbug. I will look into it… JN

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Joanne Nova:
    February 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Thanks. All fixed and the page now shows the latest 30 comments, with slightly longer text for each…

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    February 26th, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Oh Jo please please could you do something with THAT pic at the 10 Wong reasons post? I get upset each time I see it. Maybe a morph is in order.

    Like or Dislike: 0  0

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    Baa Humbug:
    March 1st, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Andrew Bolt gives Jo a nice plug HERE about her deconstruction of Lambert

    Like or Dislike: 1  0

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