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		<title>By: Réchauffement médiatique &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Les p&#8217;tites vites #1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Réchauffement médiatique &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Les p&#8217;tites vites #1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; parce que les objectifs n&#8217;étaient pas assez ambitieux! (Pour en savoir plus, voyez ici, ici et [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TWAWKI &#187; DeNATUREd Issue 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWAWKI &#187; DeNATUREd Issue 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The end of humanity [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/hanson-barracking-for-lawless-destruction-and-the-end-of-civilization/#comment-41581</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best steak house here went out of business when hard times hit and so did the next best.  A really fine French restaurant also went by-by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best steak house here went out of business when hard times hit and so did the next best.  A really fine French restaurant also went by-by.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS, for the record; the most expensive steak dinner here (which I am fond of) is around $50 USD.

That may , or may not be the same as the great state of .....where you live.

And by the way if I win a future steak bet, I&#039;d be happy to travel to your location (On my dime) to experience really good steak!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, for the record; the most expensive steak dinner here (which I am fond of) is around $50 USD.</p>
<p>That may , or may not be the same as the great state of &#8230;..where you live.</p>
<p>And by the way if I win a future steak bet, I&#8217;d be happy to travel to your location (On my dime) to experience really good steak!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/hanson-barracking-for-lawless-destruction-and-the-end-of-civilization/#comment-41415</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark D,

Couldn&#039;t resist!  I&#039;ve never seen a more complicated line of bull than this guy&#039;s.  He&#039;s a real dilettante.  An elephant couldn&#039;t pull his head out of the middle of that mess.  He must study the tealeaves day and night.

Does he remind you of anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark D,</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t resist!  I&#8217;ve never seen a more complicated line of bull than this guy&#8217;s.  He&#8217;s a real dilettante.  An elephant couldn&#8217;t pull his head out of the middle of that mess.  He must study the tealeaves day and night.</p>
<p>Does he remind you of anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/hanson-barracking-for-lawless-destruction-and-the-end-of-civilization/#comment-41413</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, I believe that is what is called a sucker bet.  Besides you know what happened to MattB when he wagered don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, I believe that is what is called a sucker bet.  Besides you know what happened to MattB when he wagered don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark D,

Without knowing where you live I&#039;ll bet you the most expensive steak dinner for two in the most expensive restaurant anywhere near where you live that he&#039;ll not ever be convinced.

Deal?

Roy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark D,</p>
<p>Without knowing where you live I&#8217;ll bet you the most expensive steak dinner for two in the most expensive restaurant anywhere near where you live that he&#8217;ll not ever be convinced.</p>
<p>Deal?</p>
<p>Roy</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/hanson-barracking-for-lawless-destruction-and-the-end-of-civilization/#comment-41410</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iain D,

You&#039;ve sure learned a lot of complicated drivel from someone and you&#039;ve shown yourself to be in bed with Hansen and Farnish.  I think that just about finishes anything we can do for you.

The truth about all of this is easy to state in just one sentence.  Carbon dioxide is already doing almost all it can and there is no chance that it can do more than a trivial little bit of additional warming.

End of story.  If you keep coming back you&#039;ll just get more like the stuff above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iain D,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve sure learned a lot of complicated drivel from someone and you&#8217;ve shown yourself to be in bed with Hansen and Farnish.  I think that just about finishes anything we can do for you.</p>
<p>The truth about all of this is easy to state in just one sentence.  Carbon dioxide is already doing almost all it can and there is no chance that it can do more than a trivial little bit of additional warming.</p>
<p>End of story.  If you keep coming back you&#8217;ll just get more like the stuff above.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/hanson-barracking-for-lawless-destruction-and-the-end-of-civilization/#comment-41406</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS the rest can be found here.  This is by no means meant to be the whole story.  It is a good start.  http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS the rest can be found here.  This is by no means meant to be the whole story.  It is a good start.  <a href="http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lain D.  the graph you link to is preceded with this: &lt;blockquote&gt;Theorists can calculate the actual influence of each factor, but only approximately. The authors of this model adjusted the weights to give the best fit to the observations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translated this mean &quot;we guessed&quot;.  You then claim: &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;the lives of literally billions are at stake?&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you think that billions of lives are at stake over a guess?  For a while quit reading the IPCC reports.  There is more out there than the IPCC.

Take the time to read more about history, about the rise and fall of great world powers, Read about what propaganda is, read &quot;proof&quot; really means.  Then spend several hundred hours reading here and at the several other skeptical sites.  After that come back here and play &quot;thoughtful&quot; with us.  

Here are so easy to watch / read sites which will help you if you are willing to learn.

4 parts utube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DikirPLhHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY&amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno&amp;feature=related

Then read this 3 meg PDF and see if you find anything interesting: http://rps3.com/Files/AGW/EngrCritique.AGW.Science.2.pdf 

After those come back and speak your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lain D.  the graph you link to is preceded with this:<br />
<blockquote>Theorists can calculate the actual influence of each factor, but only approximately. The authors of this model adjusted the weights to give the best fit to the observations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translated this mean &#8220;we guessed&#8221;.  You then claim:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;the lives of literally billions are at stake?&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>So you think that billions of lives are at stake over a guess?  For a while quit reading the IPCC reports.  There is more out there than the IPCC.</p>
<p>Take the time to read more about history, about the rise and fall of great world powers, Read about what propaganda is, read &#8220;proof&#8221; really means.  Then spend several hundred hours reading here and at the several other skeptical sites.  After that come back here and play &#8220;thoughtful&#8221; with us.  </p>
<p>Here are so easy to watch / read sites which will help you if you are willing to learn.</p>
<p>4 parts utube:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DikirPLhHY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DikirPLhHY</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Then read this 3 meg PDF and see if you find anything interesting: <a href="http://rps3.com/Files/AGW/EngrCritique.AGW.Science.2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://rps3.com/Files/AGW/EngrCritique.AGW.Science.2.pdf</a> </p>
<p>After those come back and speak your mind.</p>
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