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		<title>By: TWAWKI &#187; DeNATUREd Issue 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWAWKI &#187; DeNATUREd Issue 2</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Thankfully no!</description>
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<p>Thankfully no!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama - &lt;em&gt;“I know there are those who disagree with the overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change...&lt;/em&gt;

Just like those that disagreed with the overwhelming evidence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

And just look at who we have on our side - Such eminent scientists as Prince Charles (IPCC lead author through the WWF), Scient(tologo)ist John Travolta, Al Gore (inventor of the Internet and the global warming scam), Pachauri (inventor of the Glacial melt of Himalayan proportions), Osama Bin Laden (inventor of the airline bomb and great destroyer of those carbon polluting civilian planes and humans)

Can the sceptics boast of such eminent company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama &#8211; <em>“I know there are those who disagree with the overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Just like those that disagreed with the overwhelming evidence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.</p>
<p>And just look at who we have on our side &#8211; Such eminent scientists as Prince Charles (IPCC lead author through the WWF), Scient(tologo)ist John Travolta, Al Gore (inventor of the Internet and the global warming scam), Pachauri (inventor of the Glacial melt of Himalayan proportions), Osama Bin Laden (inventor of the airline bomb and great destroyer of those carbon polluting civilian planes and humans)</p>
<p>Can the sceptics boast of such eminent company?</p>
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		<title>By: CyberForester</title>
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		<dc:creator>CyberForester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he&#039;s overwhelmed by the evidence for climate change then his advisors better not let him know about Chicago&#039;s crime statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s overwhelmed by the evidence for climate change then his advisors better not let him know about Chicago&#8217;s crime statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: JAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on most things Joanne, but you have missed read this.

The audience is laughing at the the idea that someone would disgaree with &quot;overwhelming evidence&quot;. The laugh is on the &quot;someone&quot; (i.e. skeptics). Why only dumb skeptics would argue with &quot;overwhelming evidence&quot;. How funny are those guys!, its so obvious from the evidence. I guess that makes them deniers and not skeptics. Giggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on most things Joanne, but you have missed read this.</p>
<p>The audience is laughing at the the idea that someone would disgaree with &#8220;overwhelming evidence&#8221;. The laugh is on the &#8220;someone&#8221; (i.e. skeptics). Why only dumb skeptics would argue with &#8220;overwhelming evidence&#8221;. How funny are those guys!, its so obvious from the evidence. I guess that makes them deniers and not skeptics. Giggle.</p>
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		<title>By: chris Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said elswhere we all need to note who in public service, politicians, scientists bureacrats, the UN and the damned EU and make sure they loose their jobs and any benefits an honest person could expect and never get in to a position of trust again, there is, as has been written here, no honest reason for embracing this scam so they are all &quot;unfit to serve&quot; they should keep that badge for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said elswhere we all need to note who in public service, politicians, scientists bureacrats, the UN and the damned EU and make sure they loose their jobs and any benefits an honest person could expect and never get in to a position of trust again, there is, as has been written here, no honest reason for embracing this scam so they are all &#8220;unfit to serve&#8221; they should keep that badge for life.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a great wordsmith, but that&#039;s about all.  Before he finishes talking you&#039;ve forgotten why he started.  Have you ever watched him answer a question at a news conference?

Loquacious he is to be sure.  But a good speaker...  No-no-no!

Just for starters a good speaker doesn&#039;t take an hour and 15 minutes to say 30 or 40 minutes worth of material.  He overloaded himself with irrelevant stuff trying to cover every subject in the world -- something for everyone, lest anyone feel left out.  By the end I&#039;d forgotten where he started.  That&#039;s not the State of The Union.  See my postscript.

Replay this speech if you have trouble sleeping.

Postscript:

This was a leopard trying desperately to change his spots so as to look more in line with conservative interests after having been repudiated by the voters in Massachusetts.
Please don&#039;t hold your breath till you see nuclear plants being built or offshore drilling starting.  He lies without the slightest damage to his conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a great wordsmith, but that&#8217;s about all.  Before he finishes talking you&#8217;ve forgotten why he started.  Have you ever watched him answer a question at a news conference?</p>
<p>Loquacious he is to be sure.  But a good speaker&#8230;  No-no-no!</p>
<p>Just for starters a good speaker doesn&#8217;t take an hour and 15 minutes to say 30 or 40 minutes worth of material.  He overloaded himself with irrelevant stuff trying to cover every subject in the world &#8212; something for everyone, lest anyone feel left out.  By the end I&#8217;d forgotten where he started.  That&#8217;s not the State of The Union.  See my postscript.</p>
<p>Replay this speech if you have trouble sleeping.</p>
<p>Postscript:</p>
<p>This was a leopard trying desperately to change his spots so as to look more in line with conservative interests after having been repudiated by the voters in Massachusetts.<br />
Please don&#8217;t hold your breath till you see nuclear plants being built or offshore drilling starting.  He lies without the slightest damage to his conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otter,

Certainly pigs can fly!  Pelosi knows this.  Politicians have been selling flying pigs for years.  They must be able to fly.  A feather here, a feather there and away they go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otter,</p>
<p>Certainly pigs can fly!  Pelosi knows this.  Politicians have been selling flying pigs for years.  They must be able to fly.  A feather here, a feather there and away they go&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>BobC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a brief note to the (few) lefties here who apparently think that capitalism is a created economic system:

&quot;Capitalism&quot; is simply a name (adopted by socialists in the 19th century) to describe what it is that people do when they are free to manage their own lives and property.  To have anything other than &quot;Capitalism&quot; you have to suppress at least some freedoms. 

Capitalism works so well because it is a fact of Human nature that people are vastly more productive when they are free to seek their fortune and keep the product of their labor than when they are serfs.

Socialists began using &quot;Capitalism&quot; as a description of free markets because it made it sound as if &quot;Capitalism&quot; and &quot;Socialism&quot; were somehow equally legitimate.  It played better with the masses than &quot;Freedom&quot; vs. &quot;Slavery&quot; (which tends to bias people at the outset).

Americans, generally, tend to intuitively understand this distinction (has to be intuitive, since the schools quit teaching it decades ago) -- Obama and his advisors do not, which is being reflected in the growing dissatisfaction with his adminstration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a brief note to the (few) lefties here who apparently think that capitalism is a created economic system:</p>
<p>&#8220;Capitalism&#8221; is simply a name (adopted by socialists in the 19th century) to describe what it is that people do when they are free to manage their own lives and property.  To have anything other than &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; you have to suppress at least some freedoms. </p>
<p>Capitalism works so well because it is a fact of Human nature that people are vastly more productive when they are free to seek their fortune and keep the product of their labor than when they are serfs.</p>
<p>Socialists began using &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; as a description of free markets because it made it sound as if &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; and &#8220;Socialism&#8221; were somehow equally legitimate.  It played better with the masses than &#8220;Freedom&#8221; vs. &#8220;Slavery&#8221; (which tends to bias people at the outset).</p>
<p>Americans, generally, tend to intuitively understand this distinction (has to be intuitive, since the schools quit teaching it decades ago) &#8212; Obama and his advisors do not, which is being reflected in the growing dissatisfaction with his adminstration.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Michael: February 1st, 2010 at 6:23 am&lt;/strong&gt;

A really good speaker is one who can get the opposition to admit he&#039;s right.  When someone like Obama appeases people who agree with him, or who have nothing but empty hopes that they use him as a receptacle for, in spite of what he says, then, no, he&#039;s not a &quot;good&quot; speaker.  His &quot;talent&quot; consists merely of a pleasant voice, and an ability to never admit he&#039;s made a mistake, probably because, lacking a conscience, he doesn&#039;t ever think he&#039;s made any.  His success speaks more for what the audience lacks, than for what he possesses.

And, since I&#039;ve already got this going, here&#039;s something for &lt;strong&gt;pat:January 31st, 2010 at 10:35 am&lt;/strong&gt;.
http://www.climategate.com/the-dynamic-duo-james-delingpole-and-alex-jones
How right you are.  There&#039;s just too much money and power to be had, for them to let a little setback like climategate stop them.  This ain&#039;t over yet, not by a long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Michael: February 1st, 2010 at 6:23 am</strong></p>
<p>A really good speaker is one who can get the opposition to admit he&#8217;s right.  When someone like Obama appeases people who agree with him, or who have nothing but empty hopes that they use him as a receptacle for, in spite of what he says, then, no, he&#8217;s not a &#8220;good&#8221; speaker.  His &#8220;talent&#8221; consists merely of a pleasant voice, and an ability to never admit he&#8217;s made a mistake, probably because, lacking a conscience, he doesn&#8217;t ever think he&#8217;s made any.  His success speaks more for what the audience lacks, than for what he possesses.</p>
<p>And, since I&#8217;ve already got this going, here&#8217;s something for <strong>pat:January 31st, 2010 at 10:35 am</strong>.<br />
<a href="http://www.climategate.com/the-dynamic-duo-james-delingpole-and-alex-jones" rel="nofollow">http://www.climategate.com/the-dynamic-duo-james-delingpole-and-alex-jones</a><br />
How right you are.  There&#8217;s just too much money and power to be had, for them to let a little setback like climategate stop them.  This ain&#8217;t over yet, not by a long shot.</p>
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