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By: Gary Kimlin

Gary Kimlin — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:44:06 +0000

In 2008 a tremendous breakthrough occurred in Australia. Papers written for the Murray Darling Commission stated that Forestation, including re vegetation were a major threat to overland flow in the catchment and indeed any catchment.
Sure we always new that after all the flow in the system was a result of the historic clearing, as a “natural” system the Rivers only flowed in flood time.
The important change was that this information changed Legislation at the Federal level. It is now illegal to plant trees, even for revegetation, in most catchments without first purchasing an existing water entitlement. That is near impossible in stressed catchments and seems to have stopped the Carbon Trading Scheme cold.
Look for the changes in the Environment Act.

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By: Gary Kimlin

Gary Kimlin — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:12:59 +0000

Surely the most water that the system would need would be the pre-settlement flow. The current flow even with droughts and irrigation is still higher than that. How is this so, you may ask? OK!
In any catchment most of the rainfall is used by the vegetation, well trees right? So the clearing even in this sparse landscape increased the River flow. The amount of water used for irrigation, though large, is still less than that increase.
On the surface the Wentworth Group is stating that the River to be healthy needs more water than it had before white settlement.
From there we go to two tricky bits.
The Wentworth Group eventually want the farmers out and the trees back. So anything that reduces farming is good.
Unfortunately it would not even stop there. The vegetation in Australia had already been reduced by burning by the Aboriginals for up to 60,000 years prior to white settlement.
The Wentworth group want re-vegetation without burning. That tree density would reduce the water available for the rivers to mostly zero. Even the biggest floods would be unlikely to flow through.
So the policies of the Wentworth Group would destroy the River System completely.
Why would they want that? OK I’m pretty sure that they don’t really want that but I didn’t say they actually understood what they were doing did I?

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By: elsophia

elsophia — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:37:36 +0000

Land Theft – NOW WATER THEFT

Who is the Wentworth Group?
LUCY KNIGHT
03 Jun, 2010 07:36 AM
SCIENTISTS are turning up the water pressure and calling for harsh new irrigation cuts – as much as 65 per cent in some valleys – tipped to wipe billions of dollars in profits from irrigation communities if adopted.

A new report from the Wentworth Group of Concerned Scientists says the draft plan on water use in the Murray Darling Basin, due out soon, must recommend a 30 per cent reduction in current water use to return the water believed necessary to fix the ailing system.

But who is the Wentworth Group?

See

http://fw.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/who-is-the-wentworth-group/1848446.aspx

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By: The greatest threat of the 21st century: not AGW but Eco-Fascism – Dark Politricks

Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:47:50 +0000

[...] Jo Nova has been following the story closely. Here’s the eco-political background: As a part of Australia’s commitment to protect native vegetation and to reduce carbon emissions under the Kyoto protocol, Peter Spencer and thousands of farmers like him, have been subjected to a government imposed ban on land clearing. [...]

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By: Burton Haynes

Burton Haynes — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:14:10 +0000

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By: Militant Libertarian » The greatest threat of the 21st century: not AGW but Eco-Fascism

Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:07:39 +0000

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By: Athena

Athena — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:34:05 +0000

Peter Spencer’s courage must be recognized, supported and encouraged to grow into an overwhelming positive, ubiquitous and contrary force. Up against unbelievably powerful forces, his struggle must not now be dismissed and forgotten as one of those – ultimately irrelevant – events in the annals of history. We could all, each and every one of us, find ourselves in exactly the same predicament. And indeed, sooner than we think. Many of us already have. Peter Spencer has made himself a focus to force his fellow Australians to face up to what is happening in this country. Let us use his courage as the focal point to return this country to its true potential.

Learn about the corrupt forces which Peter Spencer is ultimately fighting. It’s doubtful at this advanced stage, that even a Royal Commission – let alone our High Courts of “Justice” – can prevail. Nevertheless, these roads must still be followed.

What will vindicate Peter Spencer’s stand is contained in the following:

Essential reading – and listening – for everyone, from the – also courageous – pen of an insider whistleblower!

http://www.thebigbadbank.com/

Have you heard of “The World Conservation Bank” of Edmund de Rothschild and Maurice Strong – and Michael Sweatman, it’s President, who speaks of the 80% of the globe’s population, aka “cannon fodder” – wich must be eliminated to “save the planet”? And for whose benefit, you will not be allowed “to buy or sell” unless you pay a “conservation” or “carbon” tax on every single item, down to your tin of baked beans!

Download your own copy of “The Big Bad Bank” Manual at

http://www.thebigbadbank.com/

(BTW I don’t receive any remuneration!)

No Man May Buy or Sell except he hath the mark of the beast, etc……. – ad nauseam.

Now, Who do you think were the real authors of the New Testament “Book of Revelation”, now bringing their own “prophecies” to fruition? Just imagine, a “Committee of Experts” charged with the task of producing a document – “The New Testatment” – to instruct, inculcate, and educate the masses, into accepting this new religion!

If you know your New Testament history, you will realise that the Council of Nicaea of 325 AD was a Committee of dedicated, some fanatical, self-declared arbiters of what Books were suitable for inclusion in the New Testament. That Committee decided which Books (writings, papers, etc.)would be, and which would not be, included! Above all, none of the Books of the Arianism “heresy” or the Gnostics, would be included. These “sceptics” (deniers”?) must not be allowed to pollute the minds of the “cannon fodder” ! Indeed, their books – or those of which survived – were placed on an “Index” by the Church Powers – and their reading was forbidden!

Does that description sound familiar and remind you of recent Climategate revelations?

Remember the Spanish Inquisition which followed – centuries later – the most horrific and barbarous torture, the fear it engendered, that most necessary tool of all those who seek power over their fellow creatures. You were lucky if you only receiving excommunication from fellowship.

http://www.thebigbadbank.com

These power-obsessed individuals have enormous patience in developing their own dynastic ambitions. Remember all the dynastic struggles of all the royal families throughout history in an effort to retain their power? Today is no different, exept that these aspiring “royal families” prefer to keep their ambitions , methods and processes to themselves an an “inner circle” of “useful idiots”.

Don’t let Peter Spencer (and his few loyal supporters) fight a lone battle. Let us also follow Peter – and Martin Luther before him – “HERE I STAND”!

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By: Roy Hogue

Roy Hogue — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:31:08 +0000

Air-head Ted Turner of CNN and Hanoi Jane fame is doing the same with his own money. He buys vast tracts of farm land and can do it by offering a price that not many can resist. He then not only lets it go wild, he imports wolves and other predators that his neighbors who still farm just love to death.

At some point the backlash against this is going to be terrible!

We are already a net importer of food. The word stupidity is not adequate to describe this nonsense.

A couple of quotes are instructive of the mindset.

“Man is always and everywhere a blight on the landscape.” John Muir, founder of the Sierra Club.

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, once high up in the UN IPCC and apparently the main architect of the Kyoto Protocol.

The environmentalist goal is nothing less than the death of perhaps several billion human beings and throwing the rest back 2 or 3 hundred years into the past.

Google these exact quotes. There is no doubt that they were said. I’m scared and I’ve no good way to fight back unless thousands of others get the word and start to fight along with me.

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By: Curiousgeorge

Curiousgeorge — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:31:50 +0000

It’s not just carbon or Australia. This kind of thing is happening all over the world in different ways, but with the same goal:

By the UN: The Year of Biodiversity. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8449506.stm

For some background on this: http://discerningtoday.org/wildlands_map_of_us.htm

And: http://www.twp.org/cms/index.cfm?group_id=1000

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