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	<title>Comments on: Sub-prime carbon is coming</title>
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		<title>By: Edwina Coyier</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-54287</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwina Coyier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy there,just discovered your Blog when i google something and wonder what hosting do you use for your website,the speed is more faster than my wordpress, i really need it.will back to check it out,i appreciate it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy there,just discovered your Blog when i google something and wonder what hosting do you use for your website,the speed is more faster than my wordpress, i really need it.will back to check it out,i appreciate it!</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-54287" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('54287', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-54287-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-54287" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('54287', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-54287-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Carbon Market Blinks — $130b trainwreck slows &#124; Australian Protectionist Party</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-24363</link>
		<dc:creator>The Carbon Market Blinks — $130b trainwreck slows &#124; Australian Protectionist Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and in some markets amounted to 90% of the volume. No wonder the carbon market has stalled. As I have said before, there is no natural limit on a market that trades on promises, intentions, or motivations. It’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and in some markets amounted to 90% of the volume. No wonder the carbon market has stalled. As I have said before, there is no natural limit on a market that trades on promises, intentions, or motivations. It’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Markelle</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18556</link>
		<dc:creator>Markelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mal T just posted on twitter that he will cross the floor next year and vote with Labor when the ETS is retabled. Not surprising though. M T originally attempted (and failed) to gain a seat with Labor. The Liberals were his second choice and you can see where his loyalty still lays (the reason for such a weak opposition during his watch?). 
Further, being a merchant banker, he has a personal vested interest. He stands to make a lot of money in trading the Carbon Credits so why would he oppose it. He know which side of his bread is buttered.
voice your opinion
His electoral office details are:
Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au
Phone:  02 93273988
Fax     02 93272533
Post    PO Box 545 Edgcliff NSW 2027</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mal T just posted on twitter that he will cross the floor next year and vote with Labor when the ETS is retabled. Not surprising though. M T originally attempted (and failed) to gain a seat with Labor. The Liberals were his second choice and you can see where his loyalty still lays (the reason for such a weak opposition during his watch?).<br />
Further, being a merchant banker, he has a personal vested interest. He stands to make a lot of money in trading the Carbon Credits so why would he oppose it. He know which side of his bread is buttered.<br />
voice your opinion<br />
His electoral office details are:<br />
<a href="mailto:Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au">Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au</a><br />
Phone:  02 93273988<br />
Fax     02 93272533<br />
Post    PO Box 545 Edgcliff NSW 2027</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-18556" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18556', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-18556-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-18556" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18556', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-18556-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Macaroon</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18130</link>
		<dc:creator>Macaroon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Invest now before all is lost!!!!  

If you can&#039;t beat the CT idiots, join them! As the low level mud dwellers on the foodchain WE will be paying for this foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Invest now before all is lost!!!!  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t beat the CT idiots, join them! As the low level mud dwellers on the foodchain WE will be paying for this foolishness.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-18130" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18130', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-18130-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-18130" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18130', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-18130-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Journalists who repeat IPCC press releases without investigation are unwittingly acting as unpaid agents for large financial players.&quot;

I am not so sure about the &quot;unwitting&quot; part in many cases. I wonder how many of them have invested in the &#039;green&#039; scheme. [One investment newsletter has been relentlessly proclaiming &#039;cap and trade&#039; investments of the &quot;biggest transfer of wealth in our lifetimes.&quot;

On the anniversary of Michael Crichton&#039;s death [Nov. 4th], Charlie Rose interview [again] Al Gore who was promoting his new book. At the beginning of the broadcast he disclosed that he and &#039;Al&#039; had some sort of joint business interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Journalists who repeat IPCC press releases without investigation are unwittingly acting as unpaid agents for large financial players.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not so sure about the &#8220;unwitting&#8221; part in many cases. I wonder how many of them have invested in the &#8216;green&#8217; scheme. [One investment newsletter has been relentlessly proclaiming 'cap and trade' investments of the "biggest transfer of wealth in our lifetimes."</p>
<p>On the anniversary of Michael Crichton's death [Nov. 4th], Charlie Rose interview [again] Al Gore who was promoting his new book. At the beginning of the broadcast he disclosed that he and &#8216;Al&#8217; had some sort of joint business interests.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17934" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17934', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17934-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17934" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17934', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17934-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: What motivates carbon regulation? Funny you should ask - Orange Punch : The Orange County Register</title>
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		<dc:creator>What motivates carbon regulation? Funny you should ask - Orange Punch : The Orange County Register</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Behind the scenes, large financial houses are moving in stealthily. In 2008, carbon trading worldwide reached $126 billion and is projected to grow to become a $2-$10 trillion dollar market, or &#8216;The largest commodity traded world wide.&#8217; The largest. That’s bigger than oil, coal, gas, or iron,&#8221; says Joanne Nova. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Behind the scenes, large financial houses are moving in stealthily. In 2008, carbon trading worldwide reached $126 billion and is projected to grow to become a $2-$10 trillion dollar market, or &#8216;The largest commodity traded world wide.&#8217; The largest. That’s bigger than oil, coal, gas, or iron,&#8221; says Joanne Nova. [...]</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17876" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17876', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17876-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17876" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17876', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17876-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carbon nanotubes: today&#8217;s future technology? Hailed as true 21st Century technology, carbon nanotubes offer some extraordinary properties. We look at how . . . An article from: Plastics Engineering &#124; Cheap Technology Buys</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17781</link>
		<dc:creator>Carbon nanotubes: today&#8217;s future technology? Hailed as true 21st Century technology, carbon nanotubes offer some extraordinary properties. We look at how . . . An article from: Plastics Engineering &#124; Cheap Technology Buys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sub-prime carbon is coming « JoNova [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sub-prime carbon is coming « JoNova [...]</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17781" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17781', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17781-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17781" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17781', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17781-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Sub-prime carbon is coming « JoNova -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Sub-prime carbon is coming « JoNova -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Free Iran!, spot_the_dog . spot_the_dog said: Warning: Sub-prime carbon is coming http://j.mp/7ALrfw Investing trillions in hot air: what could go wrong? #tcot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Free Iran!, spot_the_dog . spot_the_dog said: Warning: Sub-prime carbon is coming <a href="http://j.mp/7ALrfw" rel="nofollow">http://j.mp/7ALrfw</a> Investing trillions in hot air: what could go wrong? #tcot [...]</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17743" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17743', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17743-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17743" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17743', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17743-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17574</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just sent an ever so slightly terse email to Senator Marise Payne reminding her who her constituency is.

Damn it! Why should we grovel to her, we pay her salary. She&#039;s always struck me as someone who would be more comfortable in the Labor Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just sent an ever so slightly terse email to Senator Marise Payne reminding her who her constituency is.</p>
<p>Damn it! Why should we grovel to her, we pay her salary. She&#8217;s always struck me as someone who would be more comfortable in the Labor Party.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17574" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17574', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17574-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17574" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17574', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17574-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: allen mcmahon</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17530</link>
		<dc:creator>allen mcmahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold the celebrations the ETS is not dead yet. Liberal senators could still cross the floor and vote with Labor. Keep the emails going to the Liberal senators most likely to support this legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold the celebrations the ETS is not dead yet. Liberal senators could still cross the floor and vote with Labor. Keep the emails going to the Liberal senators most likely to support this legislation.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-17530" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17530', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-17530-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-17530" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17530', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-17530-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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