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		<title>By: COP15: Lo que el viento se llevó (que para eso la Tierra pertenece al viento) &#124; Pinto Pinto Gorgorito</title>
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		<dc:creator>COP15: Lo que el viento se llevó (que para eso la Tierra pertenece al viento) &#124; Pinto Pinto Gorgorito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Última Hora: La ONU encuentra el termostato de la Tierra. (Vía JONOVA) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What - 1970, the year when there was a consensus on global cooling? No idea my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8211; 1970, the year when there was a consensus on global cooling? No idea my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
... there is simply no way of explaining all of the warming without the assumption that the Sumerians knew about the Global Thermostat.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fair point, but what made them program it to trigger off in 1970 ?</description>
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&#8230; there is simply no way of explaining all of the warming without the assumption that the Sumerians knew about the Global Thermostat.
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<p>Fair point, but what made them program it to trigger off in 1970 ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When all the known variables are taken into account, there is simply no way of explaining all of the warming without the assumption that the Sumerians knew about the Global Thermostat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When all the known variables are taken into account, there is simply no way of explaining all of the warming without the assumption that the Sumerians knew about the Global Thermostat.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repent!  The end is near!

Or maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repent!  The end is near!</p>
<p>Or maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Sceptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>UK Sceptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Scotland the temperature is -5.  Where I live it&#039;s currently -3.  OMG  two degrees difference.  I&#039;m doomed, I tell you.  DOOOOOMED!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Scotland the temperature is -5.  Where I live it&#8217;s currently -3.  OMG  two degrees difference.  I&#8217;m doomed, I tell you.  DOOOOOMED!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Macha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Climategate stuff, AGW garabge from the CRU and UN,  simply never stops.
First we hear about AlGore&#039;s billions from tapping into &quot;eco companies&quot;.
Then its he IPPC chair himself and all the India-based &quot;tata&quot; ties  - with virtually untraceable salary attached ( without conflict of interest of course.
Then I read this - 
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/media-manipulation/5923-wikipedias-climate-doctor
thousands of wikipedia artilces altered and deleted from submission!!!!

When will this money trail completetly unravel? A local paper her in the west had 4/5 people off the street that either never heard of ETS or did not understand it. !!
How would they go about the real dirt and corruption?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Climategate stuff, AGW garabge from the CRU and UN,  simply never stops.<br />
First we hear about AlGore&#8217;s billions from tapping into &#8220;eco companies&#8221;.<br />
Then its he IPPC chair himself and all the India-based &#8220;tata&#8221; ties  &#8211; with virtually untraceable salary attached ( without conflict of interest of course.<br />
Then I read this &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/media-manipulation/5923-wikipedias-climate-doctor" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/media-manipulation/5923-wikipedias-climate-doctor</a><br />
thousands of wikipedia artilces altered and deleted from submission!!!!</p>
<p>When will this money trail completetly unravel? A local paper her in the west had 4/5 people off the street that either never heard of ETS or did not understand it. !!<br />
How would they go about the real dirt and corruption?.</p>
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		<title>By: Ondrej S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ondrej S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole notion of a world government run by the UN reminds me of an Asimov short story from 1951.

Synopsis here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Guido_G.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Guido_G.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole notion of a world government run by the UN reminds me of an Asimov short story from 1951.</p>
<p>Synopsis here:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Guido_G." rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Guido_G.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Fegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Fegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tel: 

Agreed that the ice core data always shows rapid warming at the end of an Ice Age, but the ice core data also shows that the return of the cold often appears be &#039;relatively&#039; rapid, when compared to the climate that we&#039;re presently used to. 

That previous Interglacials have spiked higher temperatures than the present, over-extended Holocene does not alter the fact that the normal duration of an Interglacial is about 10 or 11,000 years.

Here&#039;s a link to an image of the Vostok data graph: 

http://pustakalaya.olenepal.org/wiki/images/67/6748.png.htm

Various studies have also shown that some quite rapid downward temperature shifts, on the order of a few years or a decade, to very frigid conditions have happened several times in the past.

Within a typical Precessional cycle, it has been found that it takes about 5,000 years of gradual accumulation for the continental ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere to achieve their maximal thickness of about three kilometers in depth. Then the ice sheets remain stable for  another 5,000 years before they begin to retreat -- often quite rapidly.

At the risk of sounding unduly &#039;alarmist&#039;, it won&#039;t take a three kilometer thick ice sheet to make Canada become rapidly uninhabitable. All it will take is an annual winter snowpack a few feet deep that never melts during the summer and gets deeper every succeeding year.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tel: </p>
<p>Agreed that the ice core data always shows rapid warming at the end of an Ice Age, but the ice core data also shows that the return of the cold often appears be &#8216;relatively&#8217; rapid, when compared to the climate that we&#8217;re presently used to. </p>
<p>That previous Interglacials have spiked higher temperatures than the present, over-extended Holocene does not alter the fact that the normal duration of an Interglacial is about 10 or 11,000 years.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to an image of the Vostok data graph: </p>
<p><a href="http://pustakalaya.olenepal.org/wiki/images/67/6748.png.htm" rel="nofollow">http://pustakalaya.olenepal.org/wiki/images/67/6748.png.htm</a></p>
<p>Various studies have also shown that some quite rapid downward temperature shifts, on the order of a few years or a decade, to very frigid conditions have happened several times in the past.</p>
<p>Within a typical Precessional cycle, it has been found that it takes about 5,000 years of gradual accumulation for the continental ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere to achieve their maximal thickness of about three kilometers in depth. Then the ice sheets remain stable for  another 5,000 years before they begin to retreat &#8212; often quite rapidly.</p>
<p>At the risk of sounding unduly &#8216;alarmist&#8217;, it won&#8217;t take a three kilometer thick ice sheet to make Canada become rapidly uninhabitable. All it will take is an annual winter snowpack a few feet deep that never melts during the summer and gets deeper every succeeding year.  </p>
<p>Gregory Fegel</p>
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		<title>By: melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Houston we have a problem ,get 2 thermostats in a plastic bag and fill one with exaust gas from a car ,stand them in the sun on a stick about 6 ft high ,and what do you know the temp with the exaust gas goes down ,that fits exactly with what true science shows it does not make warming it follows warming .if you keep listening to this fraud you will all end up bankrupt just like they plan.criminal charges for the fraud i say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Houston we have a problem ,get 2 thermostats in a plastic bag and fill one with exaust gas from a car ,stand them in the sun on a stick about 6 ft high ,and what do you know the temp with the exaust gas goes down ,that fits exactly with what true science shows it does not make warming it follows warming .if you keep listening to this fraud you will all end up bankrupt just like they plan.criminal charges for the fraud i say.</p>
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