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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/09/sensenbrenner-climate-fascism/

There is talk that Obama (whose ratings are literally in the bog) might try to bypass the Senate by regulation. The Senate could, I suppose, totally demolish the rest of his agenda if he tried that “trick”.

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I didn’t see the $50,000,000 thing to warm Alaska, but I’ve said for years if our governments develop the ability to change weather, we are all in big trouble. Can you imagine the international law suits?

And what “heating programs” are under way “across the United States.”? Has anyone told Al Gore about this?

In the ancient past I had many, many flying hours over the Alaskan Arctic, and adjacent areas, (including the North Pole area and over to Thule, and beyond) observing and measuring the weather. My ‘smart aleck’ comment would be that I don’t think we can generate enough heat for that amount of money to really make much difference.

I did however find one article by Ms. Peterson (an Agriculture Technologist), and I quote:

“The climate change produced by the jets pictured…not all jets…mostly non-commercial jets (she is talking about contrails), can be observed in our skies and by weathermen who can’t predict the weather very well because they refuse to put these man-made formations in their weather prediction models.”

But the military DOES (or at least did) report and forecast areas of contrails, both persistent and non-persistent. I suspect they still do since it doesn’t do much good to be stealthy if you can be easily seen by a naked eyeball. That this lady has never seen a contrail forecast is not surprising nor evidence of their non-existence. I am not qualified to pass judgement on whether civilian or military aircraft create the most contrails (nor care!), but I see no reasonable basis for her contention. Nor do I think contrails contribute to climate change.

And her claim that military weathermen “can’t predict the weather very well” is contrary to my experience. About the only military forecasts most people see are Terminal forecasts, and they are by and large extremely accurate.

To put it bluntly, I don’t believe she knows what she is talking about.

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I would like to say thanks for all your endurance,perserverance,clarity and just the right “spice” of humor.

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Good link. I sent my own message and plan to keep sending messages until the end of the conference. This is a link that needs to go viral among AGW skeptics.

George

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If you create an organization and tell it to protect you from yourself, don’t be surprised when it does “its job”. They have to justify their salaries some way.

I know little of Australian politics. But here no politician gets elected by telling people they have no problem. They always say you have a problem and they’re going to fix it for you. They never really solve the problems though. They just throw money at them.

The EPA works the same way. They have a big backlog of really important things to do. But no, it’s CO2 that gets the attention, lest their bosses get upset with them and reduce their funding.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/06/epa-set-delare-carbon-dioxide-public-danger/?test=latestnews

What about the rest of the animal kingdom?
What about their being NO Greenhouse gases at all – simply a mixture that rises when it hotter and sinks when its cooler ( or gets absorbed by water and comes down in the next shower of rain.hey there might be a pun in there, if so its intended.
I was also not impressed by RUDD deferring the Health reforms to next year “in order to get it right!”. say I heard that before from another camp re: ETS – but he and Wong seem to want to ignore that for what seems to be the same reason – to get more facts and get it right.

I fear politics is winning. Especially seeing all the people involved. Imagine the money being spent. I also read RUDD has “donated” $70Billion dollars to the same university as that the chair of IPCC is a board member (back scratching going on?). Where’s the pensioners few dollars a week!

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Thanks for pointing out that link. I sent them a little greeting of my own.

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Re you reaction at #37.

There is an ability to send messages to Cop15 at
http://en.cop15.dk/greetings/send

I posted this:

“Admit AGW is a fraud. Apologise for abusing children in the making of your opening film. Then go home and do something useful.”

I do not expect it to be shown on the big screen in the conference hall, but if enough people complain the message may filter through.

Richard

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