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		<title>By: ClimateGate sur les changements climatiques anthropiques &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClimateGate sur les changements climatiques anthropiques &#124;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Par ailleurs, si vous voulez approfondir le sujet, je vous recommande le site suivant qui détaille la complexité structurelle élaborée au cours des 30 dernières années du ClimatGate. Le site contient également une affiche grand format merveilleusement bien réalisée et détaillée. http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/climategate-30-years-in-the-making/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Climate Wars &#8230; ending? &#124; Skeptical Swedish Scientists</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Climate Wars &#8230; ending? &#124; Skeptical Swedish Scientists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read them and weep &#8230; for the betrayal of a science for a political ideology. Or &#8230; be spurred on by the search for truth and justice with this &#8220;Climategate Email Rap&#8221; - [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Just to let you know I have created a webpage where you can zoom in and out of the Climtegate poster to your heart&#039;s content.

It&#039;s located at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate&lt;/a&gt;

You may need to install Silverlight into your browser (if you have not already done so).

Andy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just to let you know I have created a webpage where you can zoom in and out of the Climtegate poster to your heart&#8217;s content.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s located at <a href="http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate" rel="nofollow">http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate</a></p>
<p>You may need to install Silverlight into your browser (if you have not already done so).</p>
<p>Andy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/climategate-30-years-in-the-making/#comment-24915</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those links.

Here is another from Dr. John Christy

&lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those links.</p>
<p>Here is another from Dr. John Christy</p>
<p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A frozen Britain turns the heat up on the Met office.

Paul Hudson BLog: BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml

remeber his article (oct 09)
whatever Happened to Global warming.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml

may have prompted the whistle blower in the climategate scandal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A frozen Britain turns the heat up on the Met office.</p>
<p>Paul Hudson BLog: BBC<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml</a></p>
<p>remeber his article (oct 09)<br />
whatever Happened to Global warming.<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml</a></p>
<p>may have prompted the whistle blower in the climategate scandal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blouis79,

Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars would have served the world even better by prefacing each of her topics as Christy&#039;s high school physics teacher would have preferred; &quot;At our present level of ignorance, we think we know...&quot;

Very interesting perspectives.  Thank you so much for sharing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouis79,</p>
<p>Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars would have served the world even better by prefacing each of her topics as Christy&#8217;s high school physics teacher would have preferred; &#8220;At our present level of ignorance, we think we know&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Very interesting perspectives.  Thank you so much for sharing them.</p>
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		<title>By: blouis79</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/climategate-30-years-in-the-making/#comment-24902</link>
		<dc:creator>blouis79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Courrielche&#039;s articles on the history of Climategate are highly recommended reading:
Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I-III
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Courrielche&#8217;s articles on the history of Climategate are highly recommended reading:<br />
Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I-III<br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/</a><br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</a><br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before there was ever Climategate, there was the quiet scientific protest by IPCC scientists.

This article seems to have slid by most people’s attention, but seems to me to be rather important statement of science by the people on the inside of the IPCC. Note while the author is
Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars, she is actually reporting a workshop of IPCC lead authors:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820

This article by John Christy, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama is compulsory reading – every last word.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before there was ever Climategate, there was the quiet scientific protest by IPCC scientists.</p>
<p>This article seems to have slid by most people’s attention, but seems to me to be rather important statement of science by the people on the inside of the IPCC. Note while the author is<br />
Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars, she is actually reporting a workshop of IPCC lead authors:<br />
<a href="http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820" rel="nofollow">http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820</a></p>
<p>This article by John Christy, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama is compulsory reading – every last word.<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm</a></p>
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		<description>Thanks, Mohib, for putting together the 30-year climategate timeline and for keeping the spotlight on this scandal!

The roots of the climategate iceberg go very deep, probably back to the time 50 years ago when the U.S. government switched its priorities from nuclear to space sciences after the surprise launch of the Sputnik spy spacecraft in 1957.

NASA was created in 1958 and power shifted:

From nuclear sciences (The Atomic  Energy Commission - AEC, Glenn Seaborg and Robert Oppenheimer) during the nuclear era. 

To space sciences (NASA and the Geophysics Section of the National Academy of Sciences-NAS) during the space age.

The late Dr. Dwarka Das Sabu and I encountered manipulation and deceit in the Geophysics Section of NAS when we tried to present experimental evidence of the birth of the solar system at the 1976 meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). 

Later we learned that AGU was still part of NAS in 1976.

One surprising result: A former student of Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg - Professor Vic Viola - was in the audience, felt deeply offended by the underhanded actions that he observed, and put me in contact with his mentor, Dr. Glenn Seaborg. 

Glenn and I continued to communicate over the next couple of decades.  In fact Glenn was scheduled to co-chair a special ACS Symposium on the &quot;Origin of Elements in the Solar System&quot; in 1999 but he died before the August ACS meeting.  The proceedings were  published by Kluwer Plenum Publishers, ISBN 0-306-46562-0 

A revolution will occur in astronomy, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, solar and space sciences if the spotlight of public attention successfully melts the climategate iceberg.   It will be discovered that NAS has long hidden evidence that: 

a.) The Sun is not a ball of Hydrogen (H).
b.) H-fusion is not the Sun&#039;s main energy source.
c.) Solar neutrinos do not oscillate away.
d.) Solar cycles - induced by gravitational interactions of the Sun&#039;s compact energetic core with other cosmic bodies - produce changes in Earth&#039;s climate.
e.) Nuclear dissociation powers the Sun and the cosmos and fills interstellar space with H, a neutron-decay product.

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA PI for Apollo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mohib, for putting together the 30-year climategate timeline and for keeping the spotlight on this scandal!</p>
<p>The roots of the climategate iceberg go very deep, probably back to the time 50 years ago when the U.S. government switched its priorities from nuclear to space sciences after the surprise launch of the Sputnik spy spacecraft in 1957.</p>
<p>NASA was created in 1958 and power shifted:</p>
<p>From nuclear sciences (The Atomic  Energy Commission &#8211; AEC, Glenn Seaborg and Robert Oppenheimer) during the nuclear era. </p>
<p>To space sciences (NASA and the Geophysics Section of the National Academy of Sciences-NAS) during the space age.</p>
<p>The late Dr. Dwarka Das Sabu and I encountered manipulation and deceit in the Geophysics Section of NAS when we tried to present experimental evidence of the birth of the solar system at the 1976 meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). </p>
<p>Later we learned that AGU was still part of NAS in 1976.</p>
<p>One surprising result: A former student of Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg &#8211; Professor Vic Viola &#8211; was in the audience, felt deeply offended by the underhanded actions that he observed, and put me in contact with his mentor, Dr. Glenn Seaborg. </p>
<p>Glenn and I continued to communicate over the next couple of decades.  In fact Glenn was scheduled to co-chair a special ACS Symposium on the &#8220;Origin of Elements in the Solar System&#8221; in 1999 but he died before the August ACS meeting.  The proceedings were  published by Kluwer Plenum Publishers, ISBN 0-306-46562-0 </p>
<p>A revolution will occur in astronomy, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, solar and space sciences if the spotlight of public attention successfully melts the climategate iceberg.   It will be discovered that NAS has long hidden evidence that: </p>
<p>a.) The Sun is not a ball of Hydrogen (H).<br />
b.) H-fusion is not the Sun&#8217;s main energy source.<br />
c.) Solar neutrinos do not oscillate away.<br />
d.) Solar cycles &#8211; induced by gravitational interactions of the Sun&#8217;s compact energetic core with other cosmic bodies &#8211; produce changes in Earth&#8217;s climate.<br />
e.) Nuclear dissociation powers the Sun and the cosmos and fills interstellar space with H, a neutron-decay product.</p>
<p>With kind regards,<br />
Oliver K. Manuel<br />
Former NASA PI for Apollo</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mohib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Walker: January 13th, 2010 at 12:20 am ...

Thanks for the kind words. We&#039;ve got a team volunteer proof readers lined up and hope to be starting final proofing later today. I think we should be done by the end of the weekend so I would wait, as a few days won&#039;t make much difference at this point. I think the new version is much better (crisper, solidly proof read, finely tuned and edited text as well as more material). The less excuses we can give to people to dismiss anything the better.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the kind words. We&#8217;ve got a team volunteer proof readers lined up and hope to be starting final proofing later today. I think we should be done by the end of the weekend so I would wait, as a few days won&#8217;t make much difference at this point. I think the new version is much better (crisper, solidly proof read, finely tuned and edited text as well as more material). The less excuses we can give to people to dismiss anything the better.</p>
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