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	<title>Comments on: Announcing the timeline: &#8220;ClimateGate: 30 years in the making&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Andy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Just to let you know I have created a webpage where you can zoom in and out of the Climtegate poster to your heart&#039;s content.

It&#039;s located at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate&lt;/a&gt;

You may need to install Silverlight into your browser (if you have not already done so).

Andy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just to let you know I have created a webpage where you can zoom in and out of the Climtegate poster to your heart&#8217;s content.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s located at <a href="http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate" rel="nofollow">http://www.andyhcoates.com/climategate</a></p>
<p>You may need to install Silverlight into your browser (if you have not already done so).</p>
<p>Andy.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-25699" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('25699', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-25699-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-25699" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('25699', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-25699-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those links.

Here is another from Dr. John Christy

&lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those links.</p>
<p>Here is another from Dr. John Christy</p>
<p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24915" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24915', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24915-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24915" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24915', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24915-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Barry Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A frozen Britain turns the heat up on the Met office.

Paul Hudson BLog: BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml

remeber his article (oct 09)
whatever Happened to Global warming.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml

may have prompted the whistle blower in the climategate scandal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A frozen Britain turns the heat up on the Met office.</p>
<p>Paul Hudson BLog: BBC<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-frozen-britain-turns-the-hea.shtml</a></p>
<p>remeber his article (oct 09)<br />
whatever Happened to Global warming.<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/10/whatever-happened-to-global-wa.shtml</a></p>
<p>may have prompted the whistle blower in the climategate scandal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/11/climategate-cru-hacked-into-an.shtml</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24914" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24914', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24914-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24914" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24914', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24914-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blouis79,

Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars would have served the world even better by prefacing each of her topics as Christy&#039;s high school physics teacher would have preferred; &quot;At our present level of ignorance, we think we know...&quot;

Very interesting perspectives.  Thank you so much for sharing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouis79,</p>
<p>Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars would have served the world even better by prefacing each of her topics as Christy&#8217;s high school physics teacher would have preferred; &#8220;At our present level of ignorance, we think we know&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Very interesting perspectives.  Thank you so much for sharing them.</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24911" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24911', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24911-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24911" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24911', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24911-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: blouis79</title>
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		<dc:creator>blouis79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Courrielche&#039;s articles on the history of Climategate are highly recommended reading:
Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I-III
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/
http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Courrielche&#8217;s articles on the history of Climategate are highly recommended reading:<br />
Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I-III<br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/08/peer-to-peer-review-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement-part-i/</a><br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/10/peer-to-peer-review-part-ii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</a><br />
<a href="http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/" rel="nofollow">http://bigjournalism.com/pcourrielche/2010/01/12/peer-to-peer-review-part-iii-how-climategate-marks-the-maturing-of-a-new-science-movement/</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24902" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24902', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24902-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24902" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24902', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24902-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: blouis79</title>
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		<dc:creator>blouis79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before there was ever Climategate, there was the quiet scientific protest by IPCC scientists.

This article seems to have slid by most people’s attention, but seems to me to be rather important statement of science by the people on the inside of the IPCC. Note while the author is
Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars, she is actually reporting a workshop of IPCC lead authors:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820

This article by John Christy, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama is compulsory reading – every last word.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before there was ever Climategate, there was the quiet scientific protest by IPCC scientists.</p>
<p>This article seems to have slid by most people’s attention, but seems to me to be rather important statement of science by the people on the inside of the IPCC. Note while the author is<br />
Professor Ann Henderson-Sellars, she is actually reporting a workshop of IPCC lead authors:<br />
<a href="http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820" rel="nofollow">http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/opinion/35820</a></p>
<p>This article by John Christy, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama is compulsory reading – every last word.<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm</a></p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24896" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24896', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24896-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24896" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24896', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24896-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Oliver K. Manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver K. Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mohib, for putting together the 30-year climategate timeline and for keeping the spotlight on this scandal!

The roots of the climategate iceberg go very deep, probably back to the time 50 years ago when the U.S. government switched its priorities from nuclear to space sciences after the surprise launch of the Sputnik spy spacecraft in 1957.

NASA was created in 1958 and power shifted:

From nuclear sciences (The Atomic  Energy Commission - AEC, Glenn Seaborg and Robert Oppenheimer) during the nuclear era. 

To space sciences (NASA and the Geophysics Section of the National Academy of Sciences-NAS) during the space age.

The late Dr. Dwarka Das Sabu and I encountered manipulation and deceit in the Geophysics Section of NAS when we tried to present experimental evidence of the birth of the solar system at the 1976 meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). 

Later we learned that AGU was still part of NAS in 1976.

One surprising result: A former student of Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg - Professor Vic Viola - was in the audience, felt deeply offended by the underhanded actions that he observed, and put me in contact with his mentor, Dr. Glenn Seaborg. 

Glenn and I continued to communicate over the next couple of decades.  In fact Glenn was scheduled to co-chair a special ACS Symposium on the &quot;Origin of Elements in the Solar System&quot; in 1999 but he died before the August ACS meeting.  The proceedings were  published by Kluwer Plenum Publishers, ISBN 0-306-46562-0 

A revolution will occur in astronomy, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, solar and space sciences if the spotlight of public attention successfully melts the climategate iceberg.   It will be discovered that NAS has long hidden evidence that: 

a.) The Sun is not a ball of Hydrogen (H).
b.) H-fusion is not the Sun&#039;s main energy source.
c.) Solar neutrinos do not oscillate away.
d.) Solar cycles - induced by gravitational interactions of the Sun&#039;s compact energetic core with other cosmic bodies - produce changes in Earth&#039;s climate.
e.) Nuclear dissociation powers the Sun and the cosmos and fills interstellar space with H, a neutron-decay product.

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA PI for Apollo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mohib, for putting together the 30-year climategate timeline and for keeping the spotlight on this scandal!</p>
<p>The roots of the climategate iceberg go very deep, probably back to the time 50 years ago when the U.S. government switched its priorities from nuclear to space sciences after the surprise launch of the Sputnik spy spacecraft in 1957.</p>
<p>NASA was created in 1958 and power shifted:</p>
<p>From nuclear sciences (The Atomic  Energy Commission &#8211; AEC, Glenn Seaborg and Robert Oppenheimer) during the nuclear era. </p>
<p>To space sciences (NASA and the Geophysics Section of the National Academy of Sciences-NAS) during the space age.</p>
<p>The late Dr. Dwarka Das Sabu and I encountered manipulation and deceit in the Geophysics Section of NAS when we tried to present experimental evidence of the birth of the solar system at the 1976 meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). </p>
<p>Later we learned that AGU was still part of NAS in 1976.</p>
<p>One surprising result: A former student of Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg &#8211; Professor Vic Viola &#8211; was in the audience, felt deeply offended by the underhanded actions that he observed, and put me in contact with his mentor, Dr. Glenn Seaborg. </p>
<p>Glenn and I continued to communicate over the next couple of decades.  In fact Glenn was scheduled to co-chair a special ACS Symposium on the &#8220;Origin of Elements in the Solar System&#8221; in 1999 but he died before the August ACS meeting.  The proceedings were  published by Kluwer Plenum Publishers, ISBN 0-306-46562-0 </p>
<p>A revolution will occur in astronomy, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, solar and space sciences if the spotlight of public attention successfully melts the climategate iceberg.   It will be discovered that NAS has long hidden evidence that: </p>
<p>a.) The Sun is not a ball of Hydrogen (H).<br />
b.) H-fusion is not the Sun&#8217;s main energy source.<br />
c.) Solar neutrinos do not oscillate away.<br />
d.) Solar cycles &#8211; induced by gravitational interactions of the Sun&#8217;s compact energetic core with other cosmic bodies &#8211; produce changes in Earth&#8217;s climate.<br />
e.) Nuclear dissociation powers the Sun and the cosmos and fills interstellar space with H, a neutron-decay product.</p>
<p>With kind regards,<br />
Oliver K. Manuel<br />
Former NASA PI for Apollo</p>
<p>Valid? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24819" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24819', 'add', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <small id="karma-24819-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-24819" src="http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24819', 'subtract', 'joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <small id="karma-24819-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mohib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Walker: January 13th, 2010 at 12:20 am ...

Thanks for the kind words. We&#039;ve got a team volunteer proof readers lined up and hope to be starting final proofing later today. I think we should be done by the end of the weekend so I would wait, as a few days won&#039;t make much difference at this point. I think the new version is much better (crisper, solidly proof read, finely tuned and edited text as well as more material). The less excuses we can give to people to dismiss anything the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Walker: January 13th, 2010 at 12:20 am &#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words. We&#8217;ve got a team volunteer proof readers lined up and hope to be starting final proofing later today. I think we should be done by the end of the weekend so I would wait, as a few days won&#8217;t make much difference at this point. I think the new version is much better (crisper, solidly proof read, finely tuned and edited text as well as more material). The less excuses we can give to people to dismiss anything the better.</p>
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		<title>By: blouis79</title>
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		<dc:creator>blouis79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gore stories reveal hypocrisy, self-interest, and lying. A worse dose perhaps of what many politicians suffer and probably a narcissitic personality disorder.

It there concrete information of his methods and how he uses political connections for personal gain and money?

Al Gore&#039;s &quot;Our Choice&quot; is the only book I have ever seen where the so-called &quot;author&quot; has a large team of researchers to do the writing and a list of hundreds of acknowledgements of so-called expert contributors to provide a vast illusion of credibility of the uncritical and manipulative writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gore stories reveal hypocrisy, self-interest, and lying. A worse dose perhaps of what many politicians suffer and probably a narcissitic personality disorder.</p>
<p>It there concrete information of his methods and how he uses political connections for personal gain and money?</p>
<p>Al Gore&#8217;s &#8220;Our Choice&#8221; is the only book I have ever seen where the so-called &#8220;author&#8221; has a large team of researchers to do the writing and a list of hundreds of acknowledgements of so-called expert contributors to provide a vast illusion of credibility of the uncritical and manipulative writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if there were just one other thing which should makes any decent person very, very sceptical about the validity of the great anthropogenic global warming bandwagon it must surely be the nature and record of it&#039;s principle front man, the Nobel Prize-winning Big Huckster himself, Al Gore.

Al Gore grew up in a hotel suite (rent-free courtesy of a relative who owned the hotel), ordering breakfast from room service and riding a limousine to his private school for the elite. Like everything else about Gore, this reality clashes with the public myth he promoted of the hard-working, pig shit-shoveling, mule team-plowing farm boy from Carthage, Tennessee.

A thorough examination of Gore&#039;s 25-year political career clearly shows nothing so much as the slimy rise of a pampered rich boy who had quickly evolved into an absolute moral chameleon.

From the outset, Gore was a major US Defense Department sycophant. After a politically-motivated short tour of Vietnam as an Army reporter complete with constant bodyguard (noting he was a Senator&#039;s son), Gore, once in Congress (how he got there is another dirt story) became one of the Pentagon&#039;s most trusted water carriers. 

The hawk Gore virtually invented the Midgetman missile, midwifed the MX missile, voted against every effort to cut the Defense budget, backed the invasion of Grenada, supported the Contras and, then in what he called his &quot;finest hour,&quot; voted for the Gulf War - only after shopping his vote on the very day of the debate to each side in order to secure the most favorable TV slot during the debate.

While in Congress, Al Gore was not only a hawk, but also a voice against homosexuals, whom he called &quot;deviants.&quot; Gore also preposterously claims to this day to have always &quot;supported a woman&#039;s right to choose&quot; when, in fact, he had (and still has) an 84% pro-life rating from National Right to Life, even stating that he believes in &quot;the foetus&#039; right to life&quot; and voting for the Hyde amendment AND Rep. Mark Siljander&#039;s effort to undercut Roe v Wade. Regardless of one&#039;s personal position on this ethical issue, this is no less than hypocrisy of the highest order.

There are numerous instances of Gore&#039;s crass use of personal epiphanies to explain his &#039;beliefs&#039;. Gore used the death of his sister, Nancy, from smoking-related cancer as a prop, saying in 1996, &quot;that is why until I draw my last breath, I will pour my heart and soul into the cause of protecting our children from the dangers of smoking.&quot; Yet, seven years after her death, Gore was still on the Big Tobacco dole - accepting tobacco money and accepting government subsidies for the tobacco he still grew on his Tennessee farm. Though Al and Tipper once smoked a lot of pot, Gore opposes its use, even for medical purposes, ignoring how his sister got relief from chemo primarily from the beneficial effects of smoking marijuana!

Other family events become similar props. A pedestrian/auto accident where his son, Al III, was hit on the streets of Baltimore was similarly milked for political use. After lying that his son (who fully recovered) was down in the street unconscious on the verge of death (two nurses who happened by say Al III had never lost consciousness), Gore claimed that it became yet another of his epiphanies and that he would dedicated himself to being a more present dad. However, he soon after sequestered himself away from Tipper and kids in his family&#039;s old hotel suite to pen &quot;Earth on the Balance.&quot;

It is in Gore&#039;s faked and hyped reputation as an environmentalist, that his penchant for lying and double-dealing is most obvious. The man who wrote that protection of the environment should be the &quot;organizing principle&quot; of government, in his own political career, did absolutely nothing of the sort. 

It was Green Al who first used opened the door to weakening the Nixon-signed Endangered Species Act by creating the &quot;god squad&quot; in order to advance the Tellico Dam in his home state over concerns about the dam&#039;s effect on the Snail Darter. At the same time he was also a foremost, even fanatical, proponent of the Clinch River Breeder Reactor (check Wikipedia).

In 1992, candidate Gore promised to oppose the WTI hazardous waste burner in East Liverpool, Ohio. Once elected, it became the first environmental promise, written at that, broken by the Clinton/Gore administration. Soon thereafter, Clinton and Gore came to the Pacific Northwest and forced the supine Big Greens, over the objections of local grassroots environmentalists, to drop an injunction against old growth logging that was issued by Reagan-appointee, Judge William Dwyer. Once Green Al left town, the ancient trees were again rolling down to the mills and the Northern spotted owl, the species the injunction was out to protect are now on the brink of extinction. 

The Gore-brokered Northwest Forest Plan called for 50 years of continued cutting of the Ancient Forests. Not satisfied, Clinton, at Gore&#039;s urging, then, in 1995, signed the so-called &quot;Salvage Rider&quot; which delivered millions of acres to the chainsaws unfettered by any ability for citizens to challenge the destruction in court.

On and on it goes. Al Gore was and still is a man of political expediency. The man who famously &quot;reinvented&quot; government, has been constantly reinventing himself. The fact that Gore is a man who will say anything to advance his own selfish interests (whatever they may really be) has been verified time after time.

Gore has said famously that he &quot;invented the Internet.&quot; He claims that he and Tipper were the models for Erich Segal&#039;s famous book, &quot;Love Story.&quot; He claims falsely to have &quot;got a bunch of people indicted and sent to jail&quot; when he unethically became part of a police sting while a young reporter for the Tennessean. 
Gore claimed to have authored the earned income tax credit, which was enacted two years, before he was elected to Congress. He even once claimed he did not even know he was &quot;in a Buddhist temple&quot; much less there to collect campaign cash.

There are a number of good, well researched (and sometimes well referenced books) exposing the rotten-to-the-core Al Gore myth, significantly BOTH from the Right AND from the Left. Any person claiming any moral integrity or religious convictions should recoil from the promotions of this utterly self-interested, ethical troglodyte of a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if there were just one other thing which should makes any decent person very, very sceptical about the validity of the great anthropogenic global warming bandwagon it must surely be the nature and record of it&#8217;s principle front man, the Nobel Prize-winning Big Huckster himself, Al Gore.</p>
<p>Al Gore grew up in a hotel suite (rent-free courtesy of a relative who owned the hotel), ordering breakfast from room service and riding a limousine to his private school for the elite. Like everything else about Gore, this reality clashes with the public myth he promoted of the hard-working, pig shit-shoveling, mule team-plowing farm boy from Carthage, Tennessee.</p>
<p>A thorough examination of Gore&#8217;s 25-year political career clearly shows nothing so much as the slimy rise of a pampered rich boy who had quickly evolved into an absolute moral chameleon.</p>
<p>From the outset, Gore was a major US Defense Department sycophant. After a politically-motivated short tour of Vietnam as an Army reporter complete with constant bodyguard (noting he was a Senator&#8217;s son), Gore, once in Congress (how he got there is another dirt story) became one of the Pentagon&#8217;s most trusted water carriers. </p>
<p>The hawk Gore virtually invented the Midgetman missile, midwifed the MX missile, voted against every effort to cut the Defense budget, backed the invasion of Grenada, supported the Contras and, then in what he called his &#8220;finest hour,&#8221; voted for the Gulf War &#8211; only after shopping his vote on the very day of the debate to each side in order to secure the most favorable TV slot during the debate.</p>
<p>While in Congress, Al Gore was not only a hawk, but also a voice against homosexuals, whom he called &#8220;deviants.&#8221; Gore also preposterously claims to this day to have always &#8220;supported a woman&#8217;s right to choose&#8221; when, in fact, he had (and still has) an 84% pro-life rating from National Right to Life, even stating that he believes in &#8220;the foetus&#8217; right to life&#8221; and voting for the Hyde amendment AND Rep. Mark Siljander&#8217;s effort to undercut Roe v Wade. Regardless of one&#8217;s personal position on this ethical issue, this is no less than hypocrisy of the highest order.</p>
<p>There are numerous instances of Gore&#8217;s crass use of personal epiphanies to explain his &#8216;beliefs&#8217;. Gore used the death of his sister, Nancy, from smoking-related cancer as a prop, saying in 1996, &#8220;that is why until I draw my last breath, I will pour my heart and soul into the cause of protecting our children from the dangers of smoking.&#8221; Yet, seven years after her death, Gore was still on the Big Tobacco dole &#8211; accepting tobacco money and accepting government subsidies for the tobacco he still grew on his Tennessee farm. Though Al and Tipper once smoked a lot of pot, Gore opposes its use, even for medical purposes, ignoring how his sister got relief from chemo primarily from the beneficial effects of smoking marijuana!</p>
<p>Other family events become similar props. A pedestrian/auto accident where his son, Al III, was hit on the streets of Baltimore was similarly milked for political use. After lying that his son (who fully recovered) was down in the street unconscious on the verge of death (two nurses who happened by say Al III had never lost consciousness), Gore claimed that it became yet another of his epiphanies and that he would dedicated himself to being a more present dad. However, he soon after sequestered himself away from Tipper and kids in his family&#8217;s old hotel suite to pen &#8220;Earth on the Balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is in Gore&#8217;s faked and hyped reputation as an environmentalist, that his penchant for lying and double-dealing is most obvious. The man who wrote that protection of the environment should be the &#8220;organizing principle&#8221; of government, in his own political career, did absolutely nothing of the sort. </p>
<p>It was Green Al who first used opened the door to weakening the Nixon-signed Endangered Species Act by creating the &#8220;god squad&#8221; in order to advance the Tellico Dam in his home state over concerns about the dam&#8217;s effect on the Snail Darter. At the same time he was also a foremost, even fanatical, proponent of the Clinch River Breeder Reactor (check Wikipedia).</p>
<p>In 1992, candidate Gore promised to oppose the WTI hazardous waste burner in East Liverpool, Ohio. Once elected, it became the first environmental promise, written at that, broken by the Clinton/Gore administration. Soon thereafter, Clinton and Gore came to the Pacific Northwest and forced the supine Big Greens, over the objections of local grassroots environmentalists, to drop an injunction against old growth logging that was issued by Reagan-appointee, Judge William Dwyer. Once Green Al left town, the ancient trees were again rolling down to the mills and the Northern spotted owl, the species the injunction was out to protect are now on the brink of extinction. </p>
<p>The Gore-brokered Northwest Forest Plan called for 50 years of continued cutting of the Ancient Forests. Not satisfied, Clinton, at Gore&#8217;s urging, then, in 1995, signed the so-called &#8220;Salvage Rider&#8221; which delivered millions of acres to the chainsaws unfettered by any ability for citizens to challenge the destruction in court.</p>
<p>On and on it goes. Al Gore was and still is a man of political expediency. The man who famously &#8220;reinvented&#8221; government, has been constantly reinventing himself. The fact that Gore is a man who will say anything to advance his own selfish interests (whatever they may really be) has been verified time after time.</p>
<p>Gore has said famously that he &#8220;invented the Internet.&#8221; He claims that he and Tipper were the models for Erich Segal&#8217;s famous book, &#8220;Love Story.&#8221; He claims falsely to have &#8220;got a bunch of people indicted and sent to jail&#8221; when he unethically became part of a police sting while a young reporter for the Tennessean.<br />
Gore claimed to have authored the earned income tax credit, which was enacted two years, before he was elected to Congress. He even once claimed he did not even know he was &#8220;in a Buddhist temple&#8221; much less there to collect campaign cash.</p>
<p>There are a number of good, well researched (and sometimes well referenced books) exposing the rotten-to-the-core Al Gore myth, significantly BOTH from the Right AND from the Left. Any person claiming any moral integrity or religious convictions should recoil from the promotions of this utterly self-interested, ethical troglodyte of a man.</p>
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