Comments on: Ramming the scam through Parliament http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/ Tackling tribal groupthink Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:59:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Edgar Roon http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-65422 Edgar Roon Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:38:48 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-65422 Assessing the money flow is another essential element within the company strategy format, so as to sustain a regular cash flow to meet the essential capital requirements. Probability of monetary crisis and also the methods of crisis management should be pointed out within the structure. The business technique must consist from the advertising plans and technique leading towards the expansion in the organization. Assessing the money flow is another essential element within the company strategy format, so as to sustain a regular cash flow to meet the essential capital requirements. Probability of monetary crisis and also the methods of crisis management should be pointed out within the structure. The business technique must consist from the advertising plans and technique leading towards the expansion in the organization.

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]]> By: Btok http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17922 Btok Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:01:10 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17922 Attention, American and Canadian citizens we are so close to losing our Sovereignty and our Freedom, is barely hanging by a thread! Make your voice and your rights known, as you are the boss not the politicans you voted into power! Time is getting short and it is coming down to the fact, that soon ( December 7 to December 18 ) I will have to pray to the good Lord to maintain our freedoms and that God will not allow our leaders to sign the Copenhagen Treaty, which will take away our liberties, let go and let God, this being a challenge to our Lord and Saviour? However, while there is still time to prevent the loss of a lifetime, perhaps loss of life it's self - I will do what I am able to fight for our freedoms! The whole Climate Change agenda is a proven fraud and racketeering, but the United Nations and Globalist governments don't care as that is just the excuse instrument they have used to ensnare us, they are going to try to push it through anyway! Has everybody out there become a tree hugger? The tree will be standing 100 years from now, but will you be looking at the tree, from inside the fence of a Concentration Camp? Anyone out there want to fight to maintain their freedom anymore? Please do all you can to preserve freedom in North America! Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU Canadians: To request that PM Harper doesn't sign the Copenhagen Treaty, thereby causing Canadians to lose their Sovereignty and Freedom, email the PM at: pm@pm.gc.ca Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty, be classified as an illegal Treaty, in order to, help save Freedom in North America? ( Unlimited Promotion Opportunity Here For a Law firm to Gain a favorable high profile credibility! ) Protest the inaccuracy and Fraud of Climate change measurements that are going to be used in the Copenhagen Treaty: http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html Attention, American and Canadian citizens we are so close to losing our Sovereignty and our Freedom, is barely hanging by a thread! Make your voice and your rights known, as you are the boss not the politicans you voted into power!
Time is getting short and it is coming down to the fact, that soon ( December 7 to December 18 ) I will have to pray to the good Lord to maintain our freedoms and that God will not allow our leaders to sign the Copenhagen Treaty, which will take away our liberties, let go and let God, this being a challenge to our Lord and Saviour? However, while there is still time to prevent the loss of a lifetime, perhaps loss of life it’s self – I will do what I am able to fight for our freedoms! The whole Climate Change agenda is a proven fraud and racketeering, but the United Nations and Globalist governments don’t care as that is just the excuse instrument they have used to ensnare us, they are going to try to push it through anyway! Has everybody out there become a tree hugger? The tree will be standing 100 years from now, but will you be looking at the tree, from inside the fence of a Concentration Camp? Anyone out there want to fight to maintain their freedom anymore? Please do all you can to preserve freedom in North America!

Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

Canadians: To request that PM Harper doesn’t sign the Copenhagen Treaty, thereby causing
Canadians to lose their Sovereignty and Freedom, email the PM at: pm@pm.gc.ca

Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty, be classified as an illegal Treaty, in order to, help save Freedom in North America? ( Unlimited Promotion Opportunity Here For a Law firm to Gain a favorable high profile credibility! )

Protest the inaccuracy and Fraud of Climate change measurements that are going to be used in the Copenhagen Treaty: http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html

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]]> By: Rod Smith http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17423 Rod Smith Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:08:11 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17423 <blockquote>Joanne: Rod, when I said we in the West should secede, I was being parochial –</blockquote> And I was being a bit smart-aleck at a very inappropriate time. I apologize.

Joanne: Rod, when I said we in the West should secede, I was being parochial –

And I was being a bit smart-aleck at a very inappropriate time. I apologize.

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]]> By: Matty http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17378 Matty Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:31:40 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17378 RE: #66 Allen Roger that. Notice then, the totally false consciousness that has taken hold of our journalists. If they were interested in doing their job they would mention this stuff, but no. Instead they choose an alternate scenario where they talk up the prospects. Pessimism is frowned on, even if justified. Paul Kelly has said he thinks there will be an agreement. Translation: I seriously hope there is one and I won't write anything unconstructive, even if it is a dead duck. It provides cover for Rudd/Wong to work their rubbish. RE: #66 Allen

Roger that. Notice then, the totally false consciousness that has taken hold of our journalists. If they were interested in doing their job they would mention this stuff, but no. Instead they choose an alternate scenario where they talk up the prospects. Pessimism is frowned on, even if justified. Paul Kelly has said he thinks there will be an agreement. Translation: I seriously hope there is one and I won’t write anything unconstructive, even if it is a dead duck. It provides cover for Rudd/Wong to work their rubbish.

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]]> By: allen mcmahon http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17374 allen mcmahon Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:17:34 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17374 Matt Considering that the majority of China's population are rural farmers with no access and no likelihood of access to power in the near future its a sucker bet. Fast developing economies such as China, India and Brazil have made comforting noises but will commit to nothing. China has said that any initiatives they take will not be subject to external audit. They have kindly consented to accept technology to help green their development provided it is free and with no conditions. Anyway we need them to buy our coal with exports forecast to increase 40% by 2020. Is seems contradictory for Rudd to demand climate action while merrily exporting emissions but I am sure that he is doing it for the planet, our children our grandchildren and not a $120 billion tax grab. Little did Thatcher know what hell she was going to unleash when she used the spectra of AGW to break the power of the coal unions in the UK. Matt
Considering that the majority of China’s population are rural farmers with no access and no likelihood of access to power in the near future its a sucker bet. Fast developing economies such as China, India and Brazil have made comforting noises but will commit to nothing.
China has said that any initiatives they take will not be subject to external audit. They have kindly consented to accept technology to help green their development provided it is free and with no conditions.
Anyway we need them to buy our coal with exports forecast to increase 40% by 2020. Is seems contradictory for Rudd to demand climate action while merrily exporting emissions but I am sure that he is doing it for the planet, our children our grandchildren and not a $120 billion tax grab.
Little did Thatcher know what hell she was going to unleash when she used the spectra of AGW to break the power of the coal unions in the UK.

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]]> By: Matty http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17369 Matty Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:31:48 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17369 RE:Steve #63 I read somewhere that during the L'Aquila conference a few months back, India's environment minister basically told Hillary Clinton that "western science was wrong". Said retreating glaciers have been doing so for over 200 years, and some were advancing, no anthropogenic signal. Beneath the diplomacy they must think we are mad RE:Steve #63

I read somewhere that during the L’Aquila conference a few months back, India’s environment minister basically told Hillary Clinton that “western science was wrong”. Said retreating glaciers have been doing so for over 200 years, and some were advancing, no anthropogenic signal. Beneath the diplomacy they must think we are mad

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]]> By: Steve Schapel http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17366 Steve Schapel Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:17:22 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17366 Tel (#63), Thanks for those thoughts. Very interesting, and I am sure that cultural differences have been under-estimated by many. I wonder what the Chinese and Indians really think about the tendency to mass hysteria being displayed by the loopy West. Tel (#63),

Thanks for those thoughts. Very interesting, and I am sure that cultural differences have been under-estimated by many.

I wonder what the Chinese and Indians really think about the tendency to mass hysteria being displayed by the loopy West.

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]]> By: Tel http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17364 Tel Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:01:22 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17364 My gut feeling on China is that they have no particular interest in trying to stop Global Warming. I doubt they believe it is a big issue, and even if it was a big issue they would just blame the USA without feeling they have any particular responsibility. China's policies are oriented around China for the most part, and they aren't in the game of leading world crusades or heroically setting examples on matters of principle. I do believe that the Chinese are thinking long and hard about energy independence and where their oil is going to come from for the next century. If they can make efficiency improvements and get a few pats on the back from the international community then they will see that as worthwhile (maybe the international community will look away from their human rights record). Once they have decided that efficiency improvements are necessary, they merely tell everyone to be more efficient for the good of the nation and then wait 12 months and ask about to see what has been achieved. I'm sure that when the officials come round to ask how those state objectives are going, they will discover that yes indeed they have been achieved, at every level, and in some cases a little bit extra. Amazing how that always happens. What a well managed country! They solved their recession problems in much the same manner -- declare it over then ask around to see who would disagree. My gut feeling on China is that they have no particular interest in trying to stop Global Warming. I doubt they believe it is a big issue, and even if it was a big issue they would just blame the USA without feeling they have any particular responsibility. China’s policies are oriented around China for the most part, and they aren’t in the game of leading world crusades or heroically setting examples on matters of principle.

I do believe that the Chinese are thinking long and hard about energy independence and where their oil is going to come from for the next century. If they can make efficiency improvements and get a few pats on the back from the international community then they will see that as worthwhile (maybe the international community will look away from their human rights record).

Once they have decided that efficiency improvements are necessary, they merely tell everyone to be more efficient for the good of the nation and then wait 12 months and ask about to see what has been achieved. I’m sure that when the officials come round to ask how those state objectives are going, they will discover that yes indeed they have been achieved, at every level, and in some cases a little bit extra. Amazing how that always happens. What a well managed country!

They solved their recession problems in much the same manner — declare it over then ask around to see who would disagree.

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]]> By: Steve Schapel http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17363 Steve Schapel Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:48 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17363 Jeff (#53)... Not sure which video specifically you are referring to, but I invested an hour yesterday listening to the 5 part Monckton interview beginning <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Qhm6YRdJE" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Well worth the effort. One thing he suggested was the formation of an international political party - The Freedom Party. Cool idea. Jeff (#53)…

Not sure which video specifically you are referring to, but I invested an hour yesterday listening to the 5 part Monckton interview beginning here. Well worth the effort.

One thing he suggested was the formation of an international political party – The Freedom Party. Cool idea.

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]]> By: Steve Schapel http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/ramming-the-scam-through-parliament/#comment-17362 Steve Schapel Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:47:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4595#comment-17362 Louis (#59): "Climategate is front page news in Europe and the US" That was not my understanding. Only in isolated pockets anyway. Louis (#59): “Climategate is front page news in Europe and the US”

That was not my understanding. Only in isolated pockets anyway.

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