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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it due to?  Where is the heat coming from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it due to?  Where is the heat coming from?</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Nova</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/danish-translation-handbog-for-skeptikere/#comment-15288</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, I don&#039;t think there is any real question that the oceans have been slowly rising for a long time. In fact one of the graphs you found is very nice. Look at the trend. CO2 levels didn&#039;t start rising rapidly until 1945. The world has been warming since 1750, and the slowly rising sea levels show that. There&#039;s no big upswing. The Sea does what it does. It&#039;s warming, but not much is due to CO2.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/images/ipcc_fig11-7.gif&quot; alt=&quot;tide guages record&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, I don&#8217;t think there is any real question that the oceans have been slowly rising for a long time. In fact one of the graphs you found is very nice. Look at the trend. CO2 levels didn&#8217;t start rising rapidly until 1945. The world has been warming since 1750, and the slowly rising sea levels show that. There&#8217;s no big upswing. The Sea does what it does. It&#8217;s warming, but not much is due to CO2.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/images/ipcc_fig11-7.gif" alt="tide guages record" /></p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Nova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE Nov 10th! If you are in Denmark for the conference, you may want to join this list&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;

Hej gæve Climate Sense folk, For nu at bedre information mellem ikke troende, så er her en email liste under opbygning. I første omgang tænkt som en slags generel informations email liste, hvor vi kan informere hinanden om de gode råd vi måtte have og de ting vi kan gøre for at mindske skaderne fra COP15 gennem succesen fra Climate Sense 2009 den 18. december i København. For at deltage på listen, pladser tin web browser på: http://lists.fiskeryd.com/listinfo/alternative-cop og fyld blanketten ind. Deltag og send denne invitation ud til alle dine aktive venner og colleger. ————————————————————-

&lt;strong&gt;TRANSLATION:&lt;/strong&gt; Hi brave Climate Sense people, In order to enhance the information between non-believers, this email list is being build up. At first thought of as a kind of general information email list, where we can inform each other providing good advice and tell about the things we can do to reduce the damages from COP15 through the success of Climate Sense 2009 on December 18th in Copenhagen. In order to participate on the list, point your web browser at: http://lists.fiskeryd.com/listinfo/alternative-cop and fill in the form. Join and send out this invitation to all your active friends and colleagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>UPDATE Nov 10th! If you are in Denmark for the conference, you may want to join this list</strong>.</span></p>
<p>Hej gæve Climate Sense folk, For nu at bedre information mellem ikke troende, så er her en email liste under opbygning. I første omgang tænkt som en slags generel informations email liste, hvor vi kan informere hinanden om de gode råd vi måtte have og de ting vi kan gøre for at mindske skaderne fra COP15 gennem succesen fra Climate Sense 2009 den 18. december i København. For at deltage på listen, pladser tin web browser på: <a href="http://lists.fiskeryd.com/listinfo/alternative-cop" rel="nofollow">http://lists.fiskeryd.com/listinfo/alternative-cop</a> og fyld blanketten ind. Deltag og send denne invitation ud til alle dine aktive venner og colleger. ————————————————————-</p>
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		<title>By: Ashleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, before about the 1990&#039;s there would not have been any satellite data at all.

So at the very least there is a change of measurement methods. That could be good or bad, or compensated for in some manner.

I&#039;d like to see some evidence of falling instead of rising sea levels, though. After all if one side promotes a fraud, the opponents need to present facts to refute, rather than just assertions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, before about the 1990&#8242;s there would not have been any satellite data at all.</p>
<p>So at the very least there is a change of measurement methods. That could be good or bad, or compensated for in some manner.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see some evidence of falling instead of rising sea levels, though. After all if one side promotes a fraud, the opponents need to present facts to refute, rather than just assertions.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, alas, is another scientific fraud.  Scroll down to the last graph on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_few_hundred.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CSIRO web site on sea level change.&lt;/a&gt;

Spot the problem?  Where are the satellite figures for 1870 to 1993?  Couldn&#039;t have been omitted because they show sea levels &lt;strong&gt;falling&lt;/strong&gt;, could they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, alas, is another scientific fraud.  Scroll down to the last graph on the <a href="http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_few_hundred.html" rel="nofollow">CSIRO web site on sea level change.</a></p>
<p>Spot the problem?  Where are the satellite figures for 1870 to 1993?  Couldn&#8217;t have been omitted because they show sea levels <strong>falling</strong>, could they?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bourbaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Bourbaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have emailed you some photos that may interest your Danish helpers. Taken at a time when there was a real war on and not the current phony war on climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have emailed you some photos that may interest your Danish helpers. Taken at a time when there was a real war on and not the current phony war on climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s us ELECTRONIC engineers you should thank.

I&#039;ll forgive you - it&#039;s an easy mistake to make. Electrical engineers deal with nasty coal burning power stations (and wind, and solar, blah blah) and spinning machinery, getting all that power sent through big overhead transmissions lines to where it can power your iPod.

Us electronic engineers design the iPods, network switches, computers, and other assorted techno-geeky stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s us ELECTRONIC engineers you should thank.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll forgive you &#8211; it&#8217;s an easy mistake to make. Electrical engineers deal with nasty coal burning power stations (and wind, and solar, blah blah) and spinning machinery, getting all that power sent through big overhead transmissions lines to where it can power your iPod.</p>
<p>Us electronic engineers design the iPods, network switches, computers, and other assorted techno-geeky stuff.</p>
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