Comments on: Six words to expose the scam http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/ Tackling tribal groupthink Wed, 23 May 2012 08:38:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Carbon Market Blinks — $130b trainwreck slows | Australian Protectionist Party http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-34033 The Carbon Market Blinks — $130b trainwreck slows | Australian Protectionist Party Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:48:06 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-34033 [...] in a public discussion of global warming is either to ask for evidence, or to just say six words: The banks want us to trade carbon. Now the $126 billion dollar figure for 2008 can be updated to $136 billion for 2009. (But note [...] [...] in a public discussion of global warming is either to ask for evidence, or to just say six words: The banks want us to trade carbon. Now the $126 billion dollar figure for 2008 can be updated to $136 billion for 2009. (But note [...]

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]]> By: Christopher-Peter: http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-16764 Christopher-Peter: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:15:28 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-16764 <strong>Hide The Decline.</strong> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk Retired <strong>climatologist Dr. Tim Ball</strong> joins us to discuss the significance of the recently leaked emails and documents from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University which expose deceit, duplicity and collusion between climate researchers to maintain the fraud of the man-made global warming theory. These emails reveal stunning behind-the-scenes details about how this fraud has been developed and perpetuated, and Dr. Ball shares his insights on what they show. <strong>Climategate: Dr. Tim Ball on the hacked CRU emails.</strong> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac For more information on this incident, please see the following articles from The Corbett Report and other sources: <strong>Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to "hide" the real data on climate change.</strong> http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/ <strong>The Death Blow to Climate Science.</strong> http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/ <strong>Collusion, Corruption, Manipulation and Obstruction.</strong> http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/ <strong>Mike's Nature Trick.</strong> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/20/ "<em>The problem is not that the young people haven't learned our values; it's that they have. They can see beneath our social and religious platitudes to what we care about most. Our great cultural message comes through loud and clear: it is an affluent lifestyle that counts for success and happiness. Yet we sometimes seem startled when the young really take our consumer values to heart and lose their hearts in the process</em>."- Jim Wallis "The Soul of Politics" <strong>Information compiled and provided by Christopher-Peter: Maingot; without prejudice, malice aforethought, ill will, vexation, or frivolity. </strong> Hide The Decline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

Retired climatologist Dr. Tim Ball joins us to discuss the significance of the recently leaked emails and documents from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University which expose deceit, duplicity and collusion between climate researchers to maintain the fraud of the man-made global warming theory. These emails reveal stunning behind-the-scenes details about how this fraud has been developed and perpetuated, and Dr. Ball shares his insights on what they show.

Climategate: Dr. Tim Ball on the hacked CRU emails.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac

For more information on this incident, please see the following articles from The Corbett Report and other sources:

Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to “hide” the real data on climate change.
http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/

The Death Blow to Climate Science.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/

Collusion, Corruption, Manipulation and Obstruction.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/

Mike’s Nature Trick.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/20/

“The problem is not that the young people haven’t learned our values; it’s that they have. They can see beneath our social and religious platitudes to what we care about most. Our great cultural message comes through loud and clear: it is an affluent lifestyle that counts for success and happiness. Yet we sometimes seem startled when the young really take our consumer values to heart and lose their hearts in the process.”- Jim Wallis “The Soul of Politics”

Information compiled and provided by Christopher-Peter: Maingot; without prejudice, malice aforethought, ill will, vexation, or frivolity.

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]]> By: Jeff http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-15138 Jeff Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:38:45 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-15138 The first paragraph of Mark Taibbi's article in Rolling Stone Magazine - 'The Great American Bubble Machine' reads:- <em>"The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money."</em> That statement is somewhat prophetic when you read Joanne's "Six words that expose the crisis" The first paragraph of Mark Taibbi’s article in Rolling Stone Magazine – ‘The Great American Bubble Machine’ reads:-
“The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it’s everywhere. The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.”

That statement is somewhat prophetic when you read Joanne’s
“Six words that expose the crisis”

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]]> By: Joanne Nova http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14927 Joanne Nova Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:16:15 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14927 David Z: Fair question. Apparently Josiah Stamp said it while speaking at the Commencement Address of the University of Texas in 1927. But no, I wasn't there, so if anyone has a transcript of that speech I would very much like to read it. Anyone who was there is 100 today (if they're still with us). This quote has been kicking around for decades, so I would hope and presume that if Stamp did not say anything remotely like that, then people have had years to step forward and say so. This blog author has researched further into it that anyone else as far as I can tell. http://gilliganscorner.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/should-i-use-quotes-not-easily-sourced/ This one is another quote that is very appropriate today: Josiah Stamp - Attibuted to Sir Josiah Stamp (1849 - 1941) HM Collector of Inland Revenue. - The government (is) extremely fond of amassing great quantities of statistics. These are raised to the nth degree, the cube roots are extracted, and the results are arranged into elaborate and impressive displays. What must be kept ever in mind, however, is that in every case, the figures are first put down by a village watchman, and he puts down anything he damn well pleases. David Z: Fair question. Apparently Josiah Stamp said it while speaking at the Commencement Address of the University of Texas in 1927. But no, I wasn’t there, so if anyone has a transcript of that speech I would very much like to read it.

Anyone who was there is 100 today (if they’re still with us). This quote has been kicking around for decades, so I would hope and presume that if Stamp did not say anything remotely like that, then people have had years to step forward and say so.

This blog author has researched further into it that anyone else as far as I can tell.
http://gilliganscorner.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/should-i-use-quotes-not-easily-sourced/

This one is another quote that is very appropriate today:
Josiah Stamp – Attibuted to Sir Josiah Stamp (1849 – 1941) HM Collector of Inland Revenue.
- The government (is) extremely fond of amassing great quantities of statistics. These are raised to the nth degree, the cube roots are extracted, and the results are arranged into elaborate and impressive displays. What must be kept ever in mind, however, is that in every case, the figures are first put down by a village watchman, and he puts down anything he damn well pleases.

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]]> By: Will Fraser http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14909 Will Fraser Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:36:55 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14909 The "Ministry of Truth"?? Truth does not need a ministry, and certainly not a minister. Propaganda is propaganda, IMO, and the stakes are different, certainly the target is. I withdraw my hyperbole, Tel, and appreciate your response. The “Ministry of Truth”?? Truth does not need a ministry, and certainly not a minister. Propaganda is propaganda, IMO, and the stakes are different, certainly the target is. I withdraw my hyperbole, Tel, and appreciate your response.

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]]> By: Tel http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14907 Tel Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:07:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14907 Comparing to Goebbels is unfair, we have not gone down that far (yet). Save the Goebbels comparison for when we really need it, and hope that we never really need it. I'll admit that the phrasing does have a touch of the Orwellian newspeak to it, but the real trick is just to blatantly presume that science should rightly be subordinate to political controls, and then convince the listener that the very best science can only be achieved by the very tightest control. Presume what you set out to prove, then barge right on ahead. Comparing to Goebbels is unfair, we have not gone down that far (yet). Save the Goebbels comparison for when we really need it, and hope that we never really need it.

I’ll admit that the phrasing does have a touch of the Orwellian newspeak to it, but the real trick is just to blatantly presume that science should rightly be subordinate to political controls, and then convince the listener that the very best science can only be achieved by the very tightest control.

Presume what you set out to prove, then barge right on ahead.

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]]> By: David Z http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14899 David Z Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:47:21 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14899 I see this quotation attributed to Jos. Stamp often enough, but nobody I know has ever been able to document its true source. Color me skeptical, but do you have a source for this citation? I see this quotation attributed to Jos. Stamp often enough, but nobody I know has ever been able to document its true source. Color me skeptical, but do you have a source for this citation?

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]]> By: Will Fraser http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14895 Will Fraser Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:09:16 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14895 See, this is consistent with 'The Debate Is Over'. I have no takers for honest debate in the threads I frequent. Gore meant what he said. The usual suspects are in line with the Directive. When there is no Debate, even PRO, it is virtually a given: the Marginalisation of the critical. As an ex politician, I recognize all the criteria, and it is chilling. I speak with actual scientists (real ones) constantly who don't understand the Hockey Stick is debunked, and are unaware of the current Mean Global Temperature. Orwellian. See, this is consistent with ‘The Debate Is Over’. I have no takers for honest debate in the threads I frequent. Gore meant what he said. The usual suspects are in line with the Directive. When there is no Debate, even PRO, it is virtually a given: the Marginalisation of the critical. As an ex politician, I recognize all the criteria, and it is chilling. I speak with actual scientists (real ones) constantly who don’t understand the Hockey Stick is debunked, and are unaware of the current Mean Global Temperature. Orwellian.

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]]> By: Will Fraser http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14894 Will Fraser Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:01:52 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14894 Can we get a comment from James Hansen? The Association of Environmental Journalists? Daffy Duck? Can we get a comment from James Hansen? The Association of Environmental Journalists? Daffy Duck?

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]]> By: Will Fraser http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/six-words-to-expose-the-crisis/#comment-14892 Will Fraser Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:19:22 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=4032#comment-14892 '...integrity of "our" excellent science...' '...our scientists...' Seems science is now a commodity, complete with 'bubblers' trading in 'futures'(Gore). Woe to the ignorant and "enculted".... A page from Herr Goebbels notebook. ‘…integrity of “our” excellent science…’ ‘…our scientists…’

Seems science is now a commodity, complete with ‘bubblers’ trading in ‘futures’(Gore). Woe to the ignorant and “enculted”…. A page from Herr Goebbels notebook.

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