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How old is the Earth?
How was the oil and NG that Exxon makes their money from created?
How did Exxon know where to look for it?

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Yes, you have identified the only microscopic value the Damien offers to the world: an irrational position to compare and contrast with a rational position. However, that value is truly microscopic and exceedingly transitory. Any value has long since been consumed. It is long past time to “drive him away”.

To say that a continued irrational questioning and pointing out of irrelevant pseudo facts is necessary to stimulate scientists and critical thinkers is an insult to the scientists and critical thinkers. They are their own harshest critics and demand the highest level of coherence with reality of themselves.

I will agree that an irrational position must be addressed. However, it need not be addressed each and every time it is expressed. ONCE is enough. Beyond that, since it is arbitrary (ie not even false), it can properly be treated as noise, identified as such, and dismissed without giving it a further thought. It has no cognitive content for analysis. Continuing the attempt to analyze it is a waste of time that could be put to more valuable uses.

Its even more a waste of time to expect continued analysis to convert the irrational to rational. Knowledge must be acquired as a first person activity with one’s mind fully engaged in the process. The irrational is acquired by accepting the irrational positions of others without further question or mental engagement. The irrational position is held to be “correct” because others say so. Hence the emphases on consensus and the so called peer reviewed papers without reference to the full context of relevant evidence and experience. Combine that with the incessant bleat that one is “better off” (ie safer) trusting those significant others than one’s own mind and you have an intellectual mirror reflecting still other intellectual mirrors in an infinite recursion. A sum of zeros is zero no matter how many zeros are summed.

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Damien McCormick (Daemon) has been getting some flack here, and I write in his defence.

His postings here provide clear and undiluted AGW-assertions that are commonly shared and accepted by AGW-believers. Hence, his postings provide the focus for debate that otherwise would not happen here.

AGW-supporting web sites are almost entirely composed of AGW-believers congratulating each other on their belief and smearing those who do not share that belief. A few who do not accept their belief do post to those web sites in attempt to cause the AGW-believers to question their assumptions (for example, Girma who posts here does it), but they are very few.

This web site could become a mirror of the AGW-believer web sites in the absence of Daemon. So, we should be grateful to him, and I am.

However, AGW-beliefs are irrational and, therefore, Daemon’s assertions are irrational. This induces ridicule in responses to him here. I regret this because it could drive him away (I often post to AGW-believer web sites then withdraw in disgust at the resulting barrage of lies and insults in response).

So, I argue that responses to Daemon should be in the form of questions that request he justify his assertions: the responses should not be expressions of disbelief, disgust and/or ridicule. Otherwise he could be driven away and his valuable contribution to debate would be lost.

As example, I pose the following question to Daemon.

AGW-proponents say that mean global temperature should not be allowed to rise 2 deg.C because such a rise may induce a runaway global warming. But mean global temperature rises and falls by nearly 4 deg.C each year
(see http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/anomalies/index.php )
and mean global temperature has been much higher than 2 deg.C above its present value for many millennia in the past
(e.g. see http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html ).
So, on what basis is it asserted that a rise of mean global temperature by rise 2 deg.C poses any danger to the stability of the global climate system?

Richard

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Officially 4% of the world’s oil reserves are owned by private oil companies. The rest are owned by governments. This fact was publicly made at an OPEC meeting in Switzerland a couple of years back – I think it might be linked on http://www.gasresources.net, Jack Kenney’s Abiotic oil web resource.

So Big Oil is the state, not bad, bad, beeg oyl.

Keep the good work up !

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