Comments on: Ocean temperatures: the new bluff in alarmism http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/ Tackling tribal groupthink Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Thomas http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-174340 John Thomas Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:40:00 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-174340 None of these "sources" presented are peer reviewed. None of this is currently publishing atmospheric scientists. This is all fake. None of these “sources” presented are peer reviewed. None of this is currently publishing atmospheric scientists. This is all fake.

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]]> By: Harry Brown http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-65572 Harry Brown Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:01:48 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-65572 Your presentation of Nino3.4 temperatures as being representative of global temperatures is plainly misleading. Your presentation of Nino3.4 temperatures as being representative of global temperatures is plainly misleading.

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]]> By: free articles about dogs http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-39004 free articles about dogs Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:10:07 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-39004 Nice site,have a fine day Nice site,have a fine day

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]]> By: Mike M http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-10319 Mike M Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:17:32 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-10319 Damien:<blockquote>The effects on the world’s weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating</blockquote>Like they were back in th 40's and 50's Damien? <a HREF="http://minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2009/04/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-and-1959---not-so-thick.html" rel="nofollow">OPEN WATER at the North Pole when the USS Skate surfaced there on March 17, 1959</a> Damien:
The effects on the world’s weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating

Like they were back in th 40′s and 50′s Damien? OPEN WATER at the North Pole when the USS Skate surfaced there on March 17, 1959

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]]> By: Lionell Griffith http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-10318 Lionell Griffith Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:51:50 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-10318 Article: Changes in net flow of ocean heat correlate with past climate anomalies "...the oceans are not continuously warming—a conclusion not consistent with the idea that the oceans may be harboring "warming in the pipeline." Douglass further notes that the team found no correlation between the shifts and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration." From: http://www.physorg.com/news169472486.html Original Source: University of Rochester How many clear examples of counter factual evidence is it going to take to put the AGW (aka man caused Climate Change)fraudulent fear mongering down for good? Article: Changes in net flow of ocean heat correlate with past climate anomalies

“…the oceans are not continuously warming—a conclusion not consistent with the idea that the oceans may be harboring “warming in the pipeline.” Douglass further notes that the team found no correlation between the shifts and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration.”

From: http://www.physorg.com/news169472486.html

Original Source: University of Rochester

How many clear examples of counter factual evidence is it going to take to put the AGW (aka man caused Climate Change)fraudulent fear mongering down for good?

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]]> By: Joanne Nova http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-9154 Joanne Nova Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:03:49 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-9154 Thank you Damien. Please note (everyone) bullying, and baseless lies are never acceptable. We want honest conversation. If you can't back up an assertion, don't post it. <hr> Damien: "I disagree with the premise of a signature... " I say: Read the report from the CCSP. The word "fingerprint" (same meaning in this context) is used 50 times in this chapter. It's in their own words. The fingerprint of greenhouses gases includes warming in the upper trophosphere. The link: http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/sap/sap1-1/finalreport/sap1-1-final-chap1.pdf The discussion is on this page http://joannenova.com.au/2008/10/26/the-missing-hotspot/ Thank you Damien. Please note (everyone) bullying, and baseless lies are never acceptable. We want honest conversation. If you can’t back up an assertion, don’t post it.

Damien: “I disagree with the premise of a signature… ”

I say: Read the report from the CCSP. The word “fingerprint” (same meaning in this context) is used 50 times in this chapter. It’s in their own words. The fingerprint of greenhouses gases includes warming in the upper trophosphere.

The link:
http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/sap/sap1-1/finalreport/sap1-1-final-chap1.pdf

The discussion is on this page http://joannenova.com.au/2008/10/26/the-missing-hotspot/

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]]> By: Damien McCormick http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-9151 Damien McCormick Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:42:46 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-9151 After several emails behind the scenes I'm posting this on Damien's behalf. - JoNova Damien writes: Hi Jo, I am sorry for calling Mr Evans "dishonest". I disagree with the premise of a signature but I certainly admit I could have worded it more diplomaticaly! And I'm willing to choose my words more carefully in future if you reconsider blocking my posts. But also, it is only fair that the others are made to toe the line as well. That would be appreciated. Oh by the way ... Sunday 26 July 2009 Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration Photos from US spy satellites declassified by the Obama White House provide the first graphic images of how the polar ice sheets are retreating in the summer. The effects on the world's weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating Regards, Damian After several emails behind the scenes I’m posting this on Damien’s behalf. – JoNova

Damien writes:

Hi Jo, I am sorry for calling Mr Evans “dishonest”. I disagree with the premise of a signature but I certainly admit I could have worded it more diplomaticaly! And I’m willing to choose my words more carefully in future if you reconsider blocking my posts.
But also, it is only fair that the others are made to toe the line as well. That would be appreciated.

Oh by the way …

Sunday 26 July 2009
Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration

Photos from US spy satellites declassified by the Obama White House provide the first graphic images of how the polar ice sheets are retreating in the summer. The effects on the world’s weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating

Regards,
Damian

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]]> By: Joanne Nova http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-8605 Joanne Nova Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:17:03 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-8605 Damiens comment in #220 was too much. I've deleted a baseless libellous insinuation. No more posts from Damien without a sincere apology. After many baseless irrational claims from someone dominating discussion with at times nonsensical positions you have reached your limit. We are here for honest conversation using Aristotelian principles of logic. That means we expect people to acknowledge good answers, concede points where they are wrong, and apologize unreservedly for baseless insults. Damiens comment in #220 was too much. I’ve deleted a baseless libellous insinuation.

No more posts from Damien without a sincere apology.

After many baseless irrational claims from someone dominating discussion with at times nonsensical positions you have reached your limit.

We are here for honest conversation using Aristotelian principles of logic. That means we expect people to acknowledge good answers, concede points where they are wrong, and apologize unreservedly for baseless insults.

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]]> By: Damien McCormick (Daemon) http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-8601 Damien McCormick (Daemon) Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:24:47 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-8601 [comment withheld pending Damiens apology ] [comment withheld pending Damiens apology ]

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]]> By: Derek http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/ocean-temperatures-the-new-bluff-in-alarmism/#comment-8585 Derek Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:59:27 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=2524#comment-8585 Apologies, "So in the upper tropopause" should of read, "So in the upper troposphere" Apologies,
“So in the upper tropopause”
should of read,
“So in the upper troposphere”

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