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		<dc:creator>Kova dėl klimato kaitos priežasčių keliasi į mokyklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tai ne pirmas kartas, kai šis institutas bando paveikti mokymą apie klimato kaitą. 2009 metais jis išplatino 150 000 Joanne&#8217;os Nova&#8217;os knygos Skeptiko instrukcija (The Skeptic&#8217;s Handbook) kopijų. Pasak Nova&#8217;os internetinio puslapio, tarp gavėjų buvo 14 000 JAV viešųjų mokyklų tarybų narių. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tai ne pirmas kartas, kai šis institutas bando paveikti mokymą apie klimato kaitą. 2009 metais jis išplatino 150 000 Joanne&#8217;os Nova&#8217;os knygos Skeptiko instrukcija (The Skeptic&#8217;s Handbook) kopijų. Pasak Nova&#8217;os internetinio puslapio, tarp gavėjų buvo 14 000 JAV viešųjų mokyklų tarybų narių. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kova dėl klimato kaitos priežasčių keliasi į mokyklas &#124; Ekodiena</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Tai ne pirmas kartas, kai &#353;is institutas bando paveikti mokymą apie klimato kaitą. 2009 metais jis i&#353;platino 150 000 Joanne&#039;os Nova&#039;os knygos Skeptiko instrukcija (The Skeptic&#039;s Handbook) kopijų. Pasak Nova&#039;os internetinio puslapio, tarp gavėjų buvo 14 000 JAV vie&#353;ųjų mokyklų tarybų narių. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tai ne pirmas kartas, kai &scaron;is institutas bando paveikti mokymą apie klimato kaitą. 2009 metais jis i&scaron;platino 150 000 Joanne&#039;os Nova&#039;os knygos Skeptiko instrukcija (The Skeptic&#039;s Handbook) kopijų. Pasak Nova&#039;os internetinio puslapio, tarp gavėjų buvo 14 000 JAV vie&scaron;ųjų mokyklų tarybų narių. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rodmclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodmclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Rolf Harris has to change the words of &#039;Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport&#039;, now &#039;Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree&#039; has succumbed to the tide of political correctness:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/02/australian-school-gay-kookaburra-song

Some American teachers want to drop &#039;Huckleberry Finn&#039; because it contains &#039;that word&#039;, despite the scene where Huck seriously decides to go to hell rather than betray his friend back into slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Rolf Harris has to change the words of &#8216;Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport&#8217;, now &#8216;Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree&#8217; has succumbed to the tide of political correctness:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/02/australian-school-gay-kookaburra-song" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/02/australian-school-gay-kookaburra-song</a></p>
<p>Some American teachers want to drop &#8216;Huckleberry Finn&#8217; because it contains &#8216;that word&#8217;, despite the scene where Huck seriously decides to go to hell rather than betray his friend back into slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: Profit Instruments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Profit Instruments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From where you guys get so correct info , i can&#039;t even imagine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From where you guys get so correct info , i can&#8217;t even imagine</p>
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		<title>By: danappaloupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>danappaloupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell this site is not a not-for-profit, or non-profit venture. Maybe the structure is different in Australia, but in the US any organization that is set up as nonprofit identifies themselves as some form of a 501(c) organization. This website is a .com. 
I am only asking because the financial and legal classification of this site is not explained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell this site is not a not-for-profit, or non-profit venture. Maybe the structure is different in Australia, but in the US any organization that is set up as nonprofit identifies themselves as some form of a 501(c) organization. This website is a .com.<br />
I am only asking because the financial and legal classification of this site is not explained.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://joannenova.com.au/2009/03/skeptics-handbook-spreads-en-masse-150000-copies/

&lt;blockquote&gt;
For those who are wondering, I will not, and have not received any payment for my work or costs. I did not ask for any, nor was any offered. Heartland approached me with a request for permission to print the Handbook, which I was happy to give.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

May I recommend a research tool?

http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/about.html</description>
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For those who are wondering, I will not, and have not received any payment for my work or costs. I did not ask for any, nor was any offered. Heartland approached me with a request for permission to print the Handbook, which I was happy to give.
</p></blockquote>
<p>May I recommend a research tool?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/about.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: danappaloupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>danappaloupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Heartland Institute receives money from the tobacco industry, employs former tobacco execs, and has denied the harm caused by second hand smoke. The tobacco industry is the most shameless group of people in existence when it comes to intentionally suppressing and denying research that is bad for business. Not that I blame them, selling cancer is not easy. 
Similar conflicts of interest exist with Exxon Mobile. Call it an ad hominem criticism, etc, but it is a serious conflict of interest. You have sold 160,000 copies of your handbook, 150,000 to The Heartland Institute. ExxonMobile has been donating around $100,000 every year... how much did they (Heartland) pay you? I don&#039;t see how you are not indirectly getting money from big oil. And kudos for that.. I wish I could cash in on big oil also. 

I notice you conveniently left out Heartland&#039;s record of support from and for the interests of large corporations in your &quot;About&quot; section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Heartland Institute receives money from the tobacco industry, employs former tobacco execs, and has denied the harm caused by second hand smoke. The tobacco industry is the most shameless group of people in existence when it comes to intentionally suppressing and denying research that is bad for business. Not that I blame them, selling cancer is not easy.<br />
Similar conflicts of interest exist with Exxon Mobile. Call it an ad hominem criticism, etc, but it is a serious conflict of interest. You have sold 160,000 copies of your handbook, 150,000 to The Heartland Institute. ExxonMobile has been donating around $100,000 every year&#8230; how much did they (Heartland) pay you? I don&#8217;t see how you are not indirectly getting money from big oil. And kudos for that.. I wish I could cash in on big oil also. </p>
<p>I notice you conveniently left out Heartland&#8217;s record of support from and for the interests of large corporations in your &#8220;About&#8221; section.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably totally off topic, but it forms the basis of comparison with the Skeptics Handbook so here it is...

I found the &quot;Climate Change Literacy brochure&quot; at this address:

http://climate.noaa.gov/education/pdfs/ClimateLiteracyPoster-8.5x11-March09FinalLR.pdf

It is the result of a Bill Clinton presidential initiative with the support of US Congress and their website claims that they have the support of 13 US government departments. More about the initiative here:

http://globalchange.gov/about


When I open page 2 of the &quot;Climate Change Literacy brochure&quot; I read the following:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
For at least the last million years, our world has experienced cycles of warming and cooling that take approximately 100,000 years to complete. Over the course of each cycle, global average temperatures have fallen and then risen again by about 9°F (5°C), each time taking Earth into an ice age and then warming it again. This cycle is believed associated with regular changes in Earth&#039;s orbit that alter the intensity of solar energy the planet receives.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The document does not make it easy to track the source of this information, and quite possibly they have multiple sources. However the ice core data shows a peak-to-peak temperature range of closer to 11°C making the above figure seem small by half. Possibly they have evidence of zero temperature swing at the equator so it averages out with the poles, or possibly they measure temperature range in a different manner to the way most people do (the biggest value less the smallest value is the range).

You can see the ice core data here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Age_Temperature.png

(with annoying backwards time axis) or see Joanne&#039;s graph on this blog.

On page 11 of the &quot;Climate Change Literacy brochure&quot;, I see:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Natural processes that remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere operate slowly when compared to the processes that are now adding it to the atmosphere. Thus, carbon dioxide introduced into the atmosphere today may remain there for a century or more. Other greenhouse gases, including some created by humans, may remain in the atmosphere for thousands of years.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As has been pointed out elsewhere in this blog (will search for exact reference if anyone has trouble finding it), the actual measurements of the lifespan of human created CO2 in Earth&#039;s atmosphere tend to be around 10 to 20 years.

Two very suspicious numbers in a relatively short document, and neither of them provides any reference or source (so even Wikipedia would not accept research of this poor calibre).

It took 13 government departments to make this! I shudder at how much money was spent :-(</description>
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<p>I found the &#8220;Climate Change Literacy brochure&#8221; at this address:</p>
<p><a href="http://climate.noaa.gov/education/pdfs/ClimateLiteracyPoster-8.5x11-March09FinalLR.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://climate.noaa.gov/education/pdfs/ClimateLiteracyPoster-8.5&#215;11-March09FinalLR.pdf</a></p>
<p>It is the result of a Bill Clinton presidential initiative with the support of US Congress and their website claims that they have the support of 13 US government departments. More about the initiative here:</p>
<p><a href="http://globalchange.gov/about" rel="nofollow">http://globalchange.gov/about</a></p>
<p>When I open page 2 of the &#8220;Climate Change Literacy brochure&#8221; I read the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>
For at least the last million years, our world has experienced cycles of warming and cooling that take approximately 100,000 years to complete. Over the course of each cycle, global average temperatures have fallen and then risen again by about 9°F (5°C), each time taking Earth into an ice age and then warming it again. This cycle is believed associated with regular changes in Earth&#8217;s orbit that alter the intensity of solar energy the planet receives.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The document does not make it easy to track the source of this information, and quite possibly they have multiple sources. However the ice core data shows a peak-to-peak temperature range of closer to 11°C making the above figure seem small by half. Possibly they have evidence of zero temperature swing at the equator so it averages out with the poles, or possibly they measure temperature range in a different manner to the way most people do (the biggest value less the smallest value is the range).</p>
<p>You can see the ice core data here:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Age_Temperature.png" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Age_Temperature.png</a></p>
<p>(with annoying backwards time axis) or see Joanne&#8217;s graph on this blog.</p>
<p>On page 11 of the &#8220;Climate Change Literacy brochure&#8221;, I see:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Natural processes that remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere operate slowly when compared to the processes that are now adding it to the atmosphere. Thus, carbon dioxide introduced into the atmosphere today may remain there for a century or more. Other greenhouse gases, including some created by humans, may remain in the atmosphere for thousands of years.
</p></blockquote>
<p>As has been pointed out elsewhere in this blog (will search for exact reference if anyone has trouble finding it), the actual measurements of the lifespan of human created CO2 in Earth&#8217;s atmosphere tend to be around 10 to 20 years.</p>
<p>Two very suspicious numbers in a relatively short document, and neither of them provides any reference or source (so even Wikipedia would not accept research of this poor calibre).</p>
<p>It took 13 government departments to make this! I shudder at how much money was spent <img src='http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<description>How much money did you receive from the Heartland Institute for those 150,000 copies? Is it considered income?</description>
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		<title>By: KazzJazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>KazzJazz</dc:creator>
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		<description>Keep up the great work Joanne. I found out about your great work from Dr. Jay Lehr who was speaking in Sydney with Prof. Bob Carter. It was very interesting and informative. I now have the tools and knowledge to speak intelligently about the debate to my warm friends who never give me straight answers to my sceptical questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the great work Joanne. I found out about your great work from Dr. Jay Lehr who was speaking in Sydney with Prof. Bob Carter. It was very interesting and informative. I now have the tools and knowledge to speak intelligently about the debate to my warm friends who never give me straight answers to my sceptical questions.</p>
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