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Guide for commenting

Posted By JoNova On February 17, 2009 @ 11:50 pm In - Guide for Commenting | Comments Disabled

First time posters: If you are polite, non repetitive, and genuinely interested in the topic, we’d love to hear from you, especially if you have a different view. All open minded, genuine comments and questions are welcome. (And no, you don’t need to read this page,  just type something in the comment box…)

Quickstart for beginners:

  1. Scroll to the bottom of most pages OR Click the word “REPLY” under the name of the person you want to reply too.
  2. Fill in your name (or pseudonym) and leave a real email – which we won’t publish, but may use to get in touch with you if we need to.
  3. Write a polite comment in the big blank box
  4. If you want emails of all comments on that thread to go to you, tick the box next to this at the bottom of the comment field: ” .” Be aware you may get 200 emails.
  5. Click “POST Comment”

1We welcome your comments and ask for:

Politeness (please) ;-)

Note: All first comments are moderated (which may be a little slow, sorry), after commenters show themselves to be legitimate and honest their comments will be displayed almost immediately.

If your comment disappears, email support AT joannenova.com.au, and ask the brilliant helpful volunteer moderators fish your comment out of the spam filter.


Intermediate Guide

How to lose the right to post comments here:

Repeated failures of logic (ad homs, argument from authority) and a dishonest tactic of demanding answers to your questions without providing answers to ours, will get you on the moderated list sooner or later. After 40,000 comments only about 40 names are moderated (update: after 70,000 comments, the moderated list is much longer, though most are anonymous, there are very few people with real names there). Until they provide evidence to back up their claims, or apologize, their comments will be held.
The fastest way to lose your freedom to comment, is with ad hominem arguments.

FAQ

  1. Why are some comments hidden?  (See the Like and Dislike Buttons)
  2. I don’t like the monster face! How do I put a better image next to my comment?    (See Gravatars)
  3. How do I report an offensive comment?    Email support AT joannenova.com.au (Replace the “AT” with “@”).

AD homine…

On this page:

FAQ Comment Buttons │  Code

Like & Dislike buttonsWho  reads this blog?

Numbered pointsLinksQuotes Images

Your picture or icon (Gravatar)

10 Steps to being a classy commentator

Privacy

 


Advanced Notes for regular commenters

How to use comments formatting buttons


I’ve put buttons on the comments box.

These are the buttons (subject to change) and what they do.

buttons for comments

  1. Write your comment, then highlight, say the word “bold” (or whatever) and click the “b” button. The button will add the code to make the word bold for you. This is what I do.
  2. If somehow you know in advance (I never do) what you want bolded before your type, you can click the button b then type bold, then click the button b (which will have changed to look like “/b” meaning it is waiting for you to finish the bold part you write.
  3. Test what is written by clicking PREVIEW (at the bottom) before you click “submit”.

These buttons insert the html code you can see below. I’m not 100% sure they work  for everyone so lets test them on this thread. To bold the word “bold” in this sentence you need code like this:

Make this word <b>bold</b>,  or  make this word  <em>bold</em>. (Both types of tags work).

That sentence will display as  “Make this word bold,  or make this word bold“. Instead of writing those tags in front and behind your comments, you can use the buttons to make it faster. There are two ways to use the buttons, or you can just hand-write code in as below (sure ;-) ).

Here’s what you see in the window except the code is not red (it would be useful if it was).

Image: Comment window

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Code to format comments

Layout, links and images make your comments easier to read and more informative. You can cut and paste these lines into your comments.

Numbered points code (generates numbers in a list automatically):

<ol>
<li>”point1″</li>
<li>”point 2″</li>
<li>”point 3″</li>
</ol>

Quotes: <blockquote> author: “quote here” </blockquote>

Images: <img src=”http://www.address_of_image” style=”width: 600px; height: 450px;”/>

Links: <a href=”….”> Link subject</a>

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To add a custom Gravatar (a picture or icon on your comments)

If you sign up here it all happens automatically. You need to use the same email address that you’ve used to post comments here and all the comments from that email will appear (inc retrospectively) with your photo.

Then you can log in to the Gravatar site and change the image any time you like. But be aware any other sites you post on that have gravatars will also display the photo. The gravatar site stores them for wide use.

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The Like & Dislike Buttons

These buttons at the bottom of each comment record simple clicks of “approve” or “disapprove”. Please click “like” when someone writes something that really appeals to you, especially those commentors who have done research or written a particularly inspiring comment. It highlights the most useful comments, and also gives people some indication of how many people are reading the thread.

Please save the dislike button for comments that are rude, threatening, or illogical, not just for comments by people you may disagree with. It’s also very appropriate for “vaporware” comments that don’t add anything to the debate, especially if people make claims without backing anything up (and even more so when it’s a serial offender).

After 12 people have clicked “dislike” a comment will be temporarily hidden. It can always be displayed by clicking on it.

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Why have some comments been hidden?

See “The Like & Dislike Buttons”

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Who reads this site?

So far, around 278,000 people from 197 countries have visited the site this year (Hello to that visitor from Tajikistan). It includes people who are Professors of University science faculties, some top ranking climate researchers, we have an ex-radiosonde (or rather, dropsonde) expert, high school teachers, and people who are curious about science. Note there are many who may find slang or convoluted English harder work to make sense of. Speak clearly thanks.

For first time posters: click here.

Think about whether you’d say it if they were in the same room.

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Historic figures: Note, visitors is not the same as pageviews, so the numbers won’t tally.

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10 Easy Steps to be a Classy Commentator


 

1. Real names get respect. Real people post more carefully than anonymous pseudonyms (something to do with having friends, family and an employer maybe?). Anonymous comments that attack real people deserve to be razed.

2. Numbered points impress us. Sort your thoughts into single points, rather than compounding sentences. We can refer to your points and follow them up. See the html code for lists.

3. Punctuation matters. It’s the mark of a good commentator when they get it right. It becomes very difficult to follow comments when it’s not clear who said what. (Take care with quotes).

4. Quotes: please quote commentors directly and exactly. Use the format their name: ” their quote “. Please keep these quotes short. Please avoid long repetitive quotes.   Instead summarize your point. Star commentators do the hard work of distilling long pages into succinct points. We appreciate them. Thank you. See the html code to do blockquotes.

Real names get more respect

5. Images: Please don’t abuse this! And try to keep them smaller than 600 * 450 px.See the html code to add an image.

6. Good links come with a summary. Anyone can google ‘a term’ and cut n paste 10 links. We’re impressed if you save us the time of reading a 3,000 word page to find one point.  See the html code to embed your link.

7. Substantiate your claims. ‘There are hundreds of papers that show X’ (so name and link some).

And quote people exactly…

8. Focus on the science and not the personalities: If you get attacked, if there is any hint of libel, email me joanne AT Joannenova.com.au. I will probably edit or remove the attack.

9. Argument by authority is usually a waste of space. If you don’t understand why visit wikipedia.

10. Manners earn you respect. Top notch commentators thank people who correct them. They also acknowledge their own errors… It takes Class.

Skip rude obnoxious language, and illogical and unreasoned writing… (unless it’s incredibly entertaining or illuminating. Mostly swearing isn’t.)

There is a helpful list of false arguments here.


Privacy and Rules and Legal policies change from time to time (without warning).

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