Comments on: Carbon credits: another corrupt currency? http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/ Trying to keep us out of the second stone-age Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:45:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Dalton Guinther http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-73964 Dalton Guinther Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:24:19 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-73964 that's incredible. that’s incredible.

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]]> By: george http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-27167 george Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:07:33 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-27167 I apologise if this link has been previously posted on this website (I am a recent arrival) but here`s what I can only describe as the definitive "Carbon Trading 101 for Neophytes" - worth passing on to anyone who is at all curious in relation to what ETS/CPRS/Cap-and-trade actually mean in terms of practical application. Simplistic but relevant. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-how-to-follow-the-money/ I apologise if this link has been previously posted on this website (I am a recent arrival) but here`s what I can only describe as the definitive “Carbon Trading 101 for Neophytes” – worth passing on to anyone who is at all curious in relation to what ETS/CPRS/Cap-and-trade actually mean in terms of practical application. Simplistic but relevant.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-how-to-follow-the-money/

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]]> By: Kermit Derren http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-26985 Kermit Derren Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:15:19 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-26985 Hey I just wanted to let you know, I really like the writing on your web site. But I am employing Chromium on a machine running version 8.x of Crashbang Ubuntu and the UI aren't quite proper. Not a strong deal, I can still basically read the articles and research for info, but just wanted to inform you about that. The navigation bar is kind of hard to apply with the config I'm running. Keep up the good work! Hey I just wanted to let you know, I really like the writing on your web site. But I am employing Chromium on a machine running version 8.x of Crashbang Ubuntu and the UI aren’t quite proper. Not a strong deal, I can still basically read the articles and research for info, but just wanted to inform you about that. The navigation bar is kind of hard to apply with the config I’m running. Keep up the good work!

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]]> By: george http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-26955 george Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:03:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-26955 A rather lengthy article by Matt Taibbi in the Rolling Stone a while back, basically an essay on Goldman Sachs. For the relevant bit maximise the Great American Bubble Machine window and you will find the carbon trading section is towards the bottom, "Bubble#6 - Global Warming". The rest is a bit off-thread here but certainly worth a read too. http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/06/goldman-sachs-engineering-every-major.html A rather lengthy article by Matt Taibbi in the Rolling Stone a while back, basically an essay on Goldman Sachs. For the relevant bit maximise the Great American Bubble Machine window and you will find the carbon trading section is towards the bottom, “Bubble#6 – Global Warming”.
The rest is a bit off-thread here but certainly worth a read too.

http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/06/goldman-sachs-engineering-every-major.html

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]]> By: FNN http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-23470 FNN Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:39:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-23470 One of those Americans who are not informed here... the movement against AGW in American is FAR larger than anyone knows ... here ... or in the Media. Carbon Trading has not even come close to passing the Senate of the United States... in fact I almost pity a Senator who tries that now after 80plus% of the voting public said they liked their healthcare in several polls ... the light for many have gone on. I attended a Tea Party... in at a state capital where there were maybe 8000 people... all middle class and all angry... . The problem is this... as it is in all countries... there IS A CONSPIRACY... that is the purpose of intelligence organizations... that is the MO of Climate Marxists... that is the goal and the method of International Think Tanks... CFR, Aspen Institute, 'round table' this and that... on and on and on and I am sure all of you know their names Down Under... . I could go on and on here but my point is these... "conspiracies" that is the take down of sovereignty, national boarders... the creation of a world fiat money and certainly "carbon credits" fits the description... these are the goals of the world government forces and they can not come out and say "we want to dissolve your country and traditions by force." State Marxism did not work... one had to kill millions to keep the cows in line... but Fabian Marxism does if Liberty is not defended. They do their work behind the emotional output of stories, in our children's schoolrooms, in what is not... said in the open by all of us and on some subjects... we don't even allow ourselves to think it. But... the consequences of not doing so are these: the complete abrogation of all real functional free speech guarantees, property rights suborned to the state's will, forced education of our children in quasi religious lies and the value of our money, that is our work, creativity, inventiveness etc. totally in the hands of a minority secretively.... expanding credit and contracting it depending upon what placeholder is needed for leader of a particular government... OH wait!... all of these are already substantively accomplished . We edit our own speech and why? Fear! IT... is... a conspiracy... on the most critical American secure governmental computers there is now software that runs the system... software written in Israel see the Clinton M.L. tapes. I don't think anyone down there generally understands the self editing that the average American does daily within his or her 'First Amendment' rights? The President takes orders that is the embarrassing fact and yes it is a conspiracy of a relatively small well defined group who have cooped Elites in every country... . Using things like the environment to accomplish control of the planet is a conspiracy ... regardless of science... regardless of history... regardless... . Wake... . One of those Americans who are not informed here… the movement against AGW in American is FAR larger than anyone knows … here … or in the Media. Carbon Trading has not even come close to passing the Senate of the United States… in fact I almost pity a Senator who tries that now after 80plus% of the voting public said they liked their healthcare in several polls … the light for many have gone on. I attended a Tea Party… in at a state capital where there were maybe 8000 people… all middle class and all angry… .

The problem is this… as it is in all countries… there IS A CONSPIRACY… that is the purpose of intelligence organizations… that is the MO of Climate Marxists… that is the goal and the method of International Think Tanks… CFR, Aspen Institute, ’round table’ this and that… on and on and on and I am sure all of you know their names Down Under… . I could go on and on here but my point is these… “conspiracies” that is the take down of sovereignty, national boarders… the creation of a world fiat money and certainly “carbon credits” fits the description… these are the goals of the world government forces and they can not come out and say “we want to dissolve your country and traditions by force.” State Marxism did not work… one had to kill millions to keep the cows in line… but Fabian Marxism does if Liberty is not defended.

They do their work behind the emotional output of stories, in our children’s schoolrooms, in what is not… said in the open by all of us and on some subjects… we don’t even allow ourselves to think it.

But… the consequences of not doing so are these: the complete abrogation of all real functional free speech guarantees, property rights suborned to the state’s will, forced education of our children in quasi religious lies and the value of our money, that is our work, creativity, inventiveness etc. totally in the hands of a minority secretively…. expanding credit and contracting it depending upon what placeholder is needed for leader of a particular government… OH wait!… all of these are already substantively accomplished . We edit our own speech and why? Fear!

IT… is… a conspiracy… on the most critical American secure governmental computers there is now software that runs the system… software written in Israel see the Clinton M.L. tapes. I don’t think anyone down there generally understands the self editing that the average American does daily within his or her ‘First Amendment’ rights? The President takes orders that is the embarrassing fact and yes it is a conspiracy of a relatively small well defined group who have cooped Elites in every country… . Using things like the environment to accomplish control of the planet is a conspiracy … regardless of science… regardless of history… regardless… . Wake… .

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]]> By: Craig Goodrich http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-8178 Craig Goodrich Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:39:39 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-8178 The "carbon credits" idea may be absurd and of course AGW is imaginary BUT at this very moment hitherto lovely parts of the country are being vandalized and lives destroyed by industrial wind farms, at the behest of lobbyists and financiers who are simply in it for the subsidies, tax breaks, and carbon credits. What is so utterly insane is that even if all this scary climate nonsense were true, "wind power" would do absolutely nothing to reduce CO2 emissions -- in fact, it would increase them by forcing backup plants to operate less efficiently. Look around at http://stopillwind.org and study the photos at http://www.wind-watch.org/pix/thumbnails.php?album=1 -- it'll break your heart. And this is being done in the name of environmentalism!!! Ignorant politicians and corrupt lobbyists strike again. Surprise, surprise. The “carbon credits” idea may be absurd and of course AGW is imaginary BUT at this very moment hitherto lovely parts of the country are being vandalized and lives destroyed by industrial wind farms, at the behest of lobbyists and financiers who are simply in it for the subsidies, tax breaks, and carbon credits.

What is so utterly insane is that even if all this scary climate nonsense were true, “wind power” would do absolutely nothing to reduce CO2 emissions — in fact, it would increase them by forcing backup plants to operate less efficiently.

Look around at http://stopillwind.org and study the photos at http://www.wind-watch.org/pix/thumbnails.php?album=1 — it’ll break your heart. And this is being done in the name of environmentalism!!!

Ignorant politicians and corrupt lobbyists strike again. Surprise, surprise.

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]]> By: tim http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-7641 tim Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:56:04 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-7641 Nice site Jo. It appears the masses will once again be fooled. Fiat money vs gold and CO2 vs pollution. Personally I love CO2, I breath it out, my greenhouse vege garden grows better when I elevate the CO2 levels to > 1000ppm and it is the reason (via plants/algae) we have 100% naturally sequestered carbon in the form of coal and oil. Nice site Jo. It appears the masses will once again be fooled. Fiat money vs gold and CO2 vs pollution. Personally I love CO2, I breath it out, my greenhouse vege garden grows better when I elevate the CO2 levels to > 1000ppm and it is the reason (via plants/algae) we have 100% naturally sequestered carbon in the form of coal and oil.

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]]> By: милeди http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-7286 милeди Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:55:38 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-7286 Дискутировать по этому поводуможно бесконечно, поэтому просто поблагодарю автора. Спасибо вам! Дискутировать по этому поводуможно бесконечно, поэтому просто поблагодарю автора. Спасибо вам!

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]]> By: Всеволод Ильин http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-4741 Всеволод Ильин Sat, 23 May 2009 00:26:06 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-4741 Народ в таких вот случаях так говорит - Баран бараном, а рога даром. Народ в таких вот случаях так говорит – Баран бараном, а рога даром.

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]]> By: Адам http://joannenova.com.au/2009/02/carbon-credits-another-corrupt-currency/comment-page-1/#comment-4639 Адам Wed, 20 May 2009 13:14:10 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=1136#comment-4639 Согласен естественно :) Для меня это как раз очень актуально :) Согласен естественно :) Для меня это как раз очень актуально :)

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