Comments on: The missing hotspot

By: Brian H

Brian H — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:20:17 +0000

Joe;
A cola is an artificially supersaturated solution. Cooling and warming are the dominant solubility variables in the real world. Hardly a red herring!

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By: Joe Veragio

Joe Veragio — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:26:07 +0000

Brian H: @42

Joe Parale: yes, you’re being somewhat thick. Leave the cola open and refrigerated and it retains some of its fizz.

Indeed, though not half as much as if you hadn’t opened it.

The refrigeration argument is a red herring – thoretically true, but with such limited impact that it’s of little relevance in the bigger picture.

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:31:24 +0000

Sorry for the dupe. The second one has a small edit (corrected typo: ‘gas’ not ‘has’.

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:29:40 +0000

Vincent;
Releasing CO2 into a room won’t warm it much; the operation of a GH gas is to absorb radiation in specific wavelengths which would otherwise escape. Since the radiation within a room is trapped anyway (unless you have a window or door open), CO2 can’t make much difference.

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:29:04 +0000

Vincent;
Releasing CO2 into a room won’t warm it much; the operation of a GH has is to absorb radiation in specific wavelengths which would otherwise escape. Since the radiation within a room is trapped anyway (unless you have a window or door open), CO2 can’t make much difference.

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:26:06 +0000

Joe Parale: yes, you’re being somewhat thick. Leave the cola open and refrigerated and it retains some of its fizz.

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:22:01 +0000

The evaporation/condensation “heat pipe”: for an exploration of the power of water rising to form clouds in dumping heat, check out
http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Heat.html
In effect, the entire heat load released by condensation happens at the upper boundary/surface of the cloud cover, and generates black-body radiation — which is wide band, mostly bypassing the absorption fingerprints of CO2 and H20. It goes pretty much directly into space. The capacity of this mechanism is pretty much unlimited, as long as water is available on the surface to drive it.

(Venus lacks such water, which is why it is hot. There also happens to be about 1°C day/night difference there, which indicates that the sun has no influence on its surface or atmospheric temperatures. The upper atmosphere evidently absorbs and disposes of all the sun’s contribution to Venus’ heat equation. Overall, CO2 has zero influence.)

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By: Brian H

Brian H — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:14:06 +0000

Pre-industrial CO2:
The Collander numbers were cherry-picked. The actual range of readings from about 1820-1920 was from 440 to 260, with the average around 330. E.g., a wide sampling of readings for 1912 all came out right around 340.

So the AGW thesis is a FAIL in yet ANOTHER way! (Is there no end to the fundamental errors?) And this one is deliberate distortion. As are many others.

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10 Wong reasons to tax us | Australian Protectionist Party — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:17:51 +0000

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By: Joe Parale

Joe Parale — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:02:09 +0000

Vincent:
wrote:-
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:35 am

“Open a cold can of coca cola and watch it goes flat as it approaches room temperature. Why?”

Am I being thick, or is it because you’ve relieved the pressure (that’s holding the bubbles in), by opening it…. regardless of temperature ?

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